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Chris Adams 06-25-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bull (Post 518746)
Since you don't have a location under your name, I don't know where "here" is. If it's 10 days average for UPS, I'd guess you are in the middle of nowhere. At any rate, I just looked at prices for metric bolts in steel grade 8.8 on Boltdepot and did not have a heart attack or anything. They have a huge assortment of types and sizes, too. Smartest thing to do would be to order an assortment so you have some of the most common sizes on-hand, then shipping is not such an issue.

But whatever, if someone dislikes metric bolts, that's their business. I'm just offering a possible solution that does not involve mismatching hardware or using bailing wire. :bounce:

Not the middle of nowhere, just in a UPS 'notch'. UPS ships tons of stuff through the airport 20 miles from here. Then it is carried into the valley and then brought back by truck. Adds between 2 and 4 days to shipping times.
Since I live through weekends, I count those as days. The famous 6 day shipping time they quote is actually eight or ten days real days as they don't count weekends.
As to an assortment, I have about 20 thousand nuts/bolts/washers in my assortment right now. Almost anything you need in SAE.
But with over 100 common sizes in metric, it gets a little iffy.
Metric stuff has so many more 'common' threads/bolt sizes that it makes it much more difficult to stock.
Or why no one stocks them locally...
Which was the whole point of the sub-thread.

curdy 06-25-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bull (Post 517704)
"3 Piece SAE Socket Tray/Organizer & 3 Piece Metric Socket Tray/Organizer: ITEM 95595 & ITEM 95783
*Nice sets. Little disappointing in the way the numbers skip, but I'll just have to redo the numbers."

I was looking at these just last night. How do the numbers "skip" that is disappointing?

Also, the part number for the paper towel holders does not yield a result on the HF website...?

I'll try to take a picture later tonight so you can see. I've got a ridiculously busy schedule the next couple of days, so I honestly may not get to it.

As far as the paper towel holders not being listed on the 'main' site, I'm assuming its because they're not available for online orders. You should be able to find them in the store. My understanding is that the link 72chevy listed (http://www.harborfreightusa.com) is the site that will show listings that are available in stores. I'm assuming they don't post prices because each location may be running different sales or whatever.

Just a side note, its worth it to put a shopping cart list together like you're going to make an online order then print that list out and take it to the store with you. Its not uncommon for the online price to be less than the in store price. Show them the print out with the online price and they'll honor it.

Dust 06-25-2009 08:52 PM

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My reasoning behind listing metric fasteners as a con was because, in my experience, most folks only have SAE tools at home. Think about it, most people just have tools to do basic repairs around the house. Most screws, nuts, and bolts for residential use are SAE, so the basic tool kit a homeowner needs will usually only have those tools. So if they buy this cart from Harbor Freight, they immediately need either two adjustable wrenches, or two 10MM wrenches and two 18MM wrenches.

When I put it together at home, I didn't have either. I don't have adjustable wrenches (Well, maybe the one for my old machine shop class), and my metric tools are at work, since that's where I need them. My SAE stuff is at home, because I have an old Chrysler that I work on. So I couldn't button up the cart until I took it to work. What about the guy who doesn't have metric tools at all? Now he has to go back to the store, and spend more money just on the tools to assemble the cart!

I guess I should have said "Does not come with basic tools for assembly" instead of "metric fasteners," as that was my true reasoning behind it. Even my cheap air tools come with a sort of wrench for tightening collets down; why couldn't a cheap off-shore service cart that's bolted together?

beartoothweb 07-02-2009 08:30 AM

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Total Fail - Electric Screw Gun and Drill for Drywall

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95415

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/pho...5499/95415.gif

I am doing my shop drywall, and was looking for an easier way to go than with a handful of screws and my cordless, so thought I'd give this a try. TOTAL FAIL.

I tried 3 of the strips, and simply couldn't get the thing to work, so it's going back.

Chris Adams 07-02-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by beartoothweb (Post 524329)
Total Fail - Electric Screw Gun and Drill for Drywall

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95415

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/pho...5499/95415.gif

I am doing my shop drywall, and was looking for an easier way to go than with a handful of screws and my cordless, so thought I'd give this a try. TOTAL FAIL.

I tried 3 of the strips, and simply couldn't get the thing to work, so it's going back.

What problem did you have?

I have one of those pups. I used it to drywall a small shed, 10x12, walls and ceiling. It survived the job, but the plastic strip was getting a little tattered. I just used the same one that came with it, putting in screws after each run. Needed it because it was way faster than using my impact drivers. And I could use it one handed.

Not a great tool, but it was super cheap and the job got done.

beartoothweb 07-02-2009 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Adams (Post 524378)
What problem did you have?

I have one of those pups. I used it to drywall a small shed, 10x12, walls and ceiling. It survived the job, but the plastic strip was getting a little tattered. I just used the same one that came with it, putting in screws after each run. Needed it because it was way faster than using my impact drivers. And I could use it one handed.

Not a great tool, but it was super cheap and the job got done.

It drove the first 2 screws, and then nothing. I could NOT get it to actually drive a screw, they either came off of the drive head completely, or drove part and then slipped. My buddy loaned me his Senco one, and it works (still 57 sheets to hang) perfectly, so...

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of either of these (Senco or HB), having done a BUNCH of drywall with just a screw belt full and screw gun...i'm not convinced that it saves that much time. I'm using a drywall hoist, so I don't need to do it one handed.

Out of all the HB stuff I've bought, this is really the only one I haven't been satisfied with, so I feel pretty good about that.

Bull 07-02-2009 09:57 AM

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I recently purchased the Ridgid 18v cordless model of that type of drywall gun. There was a slight learning curve, but it ended up saving me a lot of time when drywalling my daughter's nursery. Expensive, but worth it IMO. Very high quality.

64merc 07-02-2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bull (Post 524397)
I recently purchased the Ridgid 18v cordless model of that type of drywall gun. There was a slight learning curve, but it ended up saving me a lot of time when drywalling my daughter's nursery. Expensive, but worth it IMO. Very high quality.

Oh yes, speaking of, was she born already?

Bull 07-02-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 64merc (Post 524501)
Oh yes, speaking of, was she born already?

Not quite...she is scheduled to arrive August 6th. I'm starting to have some panic attacks. The idea of the head coming out is crazy! :shocking::shocking:

64merc 07-02-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bull (Post 524502)
Not quite...she is scheduled to arrive August 6th. I'm starting to have some panic attacks. The idea of the head coming out is crazy! :shocking::shocking:

Don't feel bad, I was a nervous wreck when my wife was pregnant with my son. I had mood swings, back aches, the whole nine yards. :wtf:

Before you know it she'll be born and in your arms. It will be great.

Bull 07-02-2009 12:06 PM

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Merc, if you have any survival tips for the delivery room, or anything else you think a new dad should know, please send me a PM. I need all the info I can get!

Chris Adams 07-02-2009 03:26 PM

Re: The Harbor Freight PASS/FAIL Thread...
 

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Originally Posted by beartoothweb (Post 524386)
It drove the first 2 screws, and then nothing. I could NOT get it to actually drive a screw, they either came off of the drive head completely, or drove part and then slipped. My buddy loaned me his Senco one, and it works (still 57 sheets to hang) perfectly, so...

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of either of these (Senco or HB), having done a BUNCH of drywall with just a screw belt full and screw gun...i'm not convinced that it saves that much time. I'm using a drywall hoist, so I don't need to do it one handed.

Out of all the HB stuff I've bought, this is really the only one I haven't been satisfied with, so I feel pretty good about that.


On the gun, I don't know how it wouldn't save time.:headscrat

I could put in a screw a second, easily. Pulling a screw out of the box, holding it with one hand while I gun it in with the impact took at least twenty seconds a shot.
The one handed thing is very important to me, I walk with a cane. I built a 'drywall hanger' but I still only have one hand to use...

The gun made the job possible, not just faster. Being able to 'bang bang bang' the screws in was great.
Lousy was filling the screw belt with new screws, but well worth it.

If I had to do even a shed, much less a shop or house, I would never even attempt to do it 'old school' one at a time.

I would buy a better unit, though, but I don't regret buying this one.

I would rather go back to hitting framing nails with a hammer.
Life's too short to spend three days drywalling a shed.

N Heat 07-03-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ck986 (Post 452835)
I bought the 10" sliding compound miter saw and love it. I would have never bought one of these at the HD price. Cant beat $79.

I'll second this. I've had the 10" sliding miter saw for about 8 yrs, and it's held up to everything I've done to it. I use it a few times a week, all day long on a few occassions. Also, I'll give a pass the 6 in 1 framing nailer.

makgreens 07-03-2009 11:35 PM

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tubing bender is a PASS
not the greatest thing in the world but it wasnt to badly priced and is doing the trick for this bike im building

curdy 07-06-2009 02:12 PM

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FAIL

50 Ft. Steel Air Hose Reel with 3/8" Hose, Item #:45814
I can't speak for the hose because I sold it since I already had a nice one. I mounted the reel to the top of my mobile compressor and it worked really well for a while. Then one day when I was going over to unplug it, the short yellow hose that connects the compressor to the reel blew off its barb fitting (from the swivel piece) under full pressure while I was right next to it. I didn't have any hearing protection on at the time and I was really sorry I didn't. The reel itself works great, but that swivel fitting and the hose clamped to it suck.

40 PC Hose Clamp Assortment Set, Item#: 93206
These have already been mentioned, but I wanted to agree to the fail status. These really are junk, don't waste your time with them.

Chris Adams 07-06-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by curdy (Post 527437)
FAIL

50 Ft. Steel Air Hose Reel with 3/8" Hose, Item #:45814
I can't speak for the hose because I sold it since I already had a nice one. I mounted the reel to the top of my mobile compressor and it worked really well for a while. Then one day when I was going over to unplug it, the short yellow hose that connects the compressor to the reel blew off its barb fitting (from the swivel piece) under full pressure while I was right next to it. I didn't have any hearing protection on at the time and I was really sorry I didn't. The reel itself works great, but that swivel fitting and the hose clamped to it suck.

40 PC Hose Clamp Assortment Set, Item#: 93206
These have already been mentioned, but I wanted to agree to the fail status. These really are junk, don't waste your time with them.

Thanks for the tip on the reel. I have one, works great, but I replaced the yellow hose with a bigger one from the begining.

I will check, and probably CHUCK that short piece. The reel works great, but that could be very dangerous as you say.

Yup third on the hose clamps. Save your money.

fordracing200 07-06-2009 11:22 PM

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bought the single drawer ball bearing cart, 99.99 on sale for 69.99, best 69.99 I ever spent, with the drawer on their, its super sturdy, only downfall I'd say, would probably be the wheels are rubber, and when loaded down with 3-400 pounds they are kind of squishy, not bad at all, but nothing like hard plastic obviously. Cart is 10x better then any craftsman toolbox ever assembled

r0meyrome 07-06-2009 11:39 PM

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I bought the 4 drawer tool cart! Its amazing! Ball bearing sliders. Smooth, Its well made but the instructions suck but for $130 bucks its a good deal!! - PASS

Torque Wrench- PASS

Wheel bearing tool/press- PASS! Saves money and time!

HF toolbox 13 drawer!! Ball bearing sliders!- PASS

paranoid56 07-06-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lhorn (Post 501586)
Harbor Freight High Speed Air Body Saw.......

Instantly the new worst piece of crap I've ever purchased from HF and will make me think twice about going back.
Ya know how with certain air tools when you pull the trigger, sometimes nothing happens and you hear a slight venting of air....then you pull the trigger again and you're off and running...(I think I have a DA that'll do this occasionally)....Well this piece of crap does it probably about 75% of the time you pull the trigger-literally. That's right...nothing at all happens. When you do start cutting, it suddenly stops on you for no reason. I had literally not been able to cut more than about 3mm before this thing stops on me. I was finally able to cut about 3/4 of an inch. Of course that took me about 1/2 hour, compressor kicked on several times and cost me about $30 for the saw.....so that was a pretty expensive 3/4 inch. I've got a receipt so I'll try again, but this was a total bust.

Anyone know where to get an inexpensive body saw that actually works?

I had the exact same thing happen to me with this body saw. even took it apart and couldnt figure it out. when it did work for 5sec it was nice :D

dirtball 07-07-2009 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by makgreens (Post 525844)
tubing bender is a PASS
not the greatest thing in the world but it wasnt to badly priced and is doing the trick for this bike im building

Do they make a tubing bender now? Or are you talking about this PIPE bender?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/pho...2899/32888.gif
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=32888

...or a tubing bender like this?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/pho...3799/03755.gif
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=3755


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