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Chris Adams 12-30-2008 09:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach James (Post 357116)
I got my jack stands at Advance Auto and another set at Mao Mart. One of my friends got a set at Agri-Supply. Except for different paint, they all look the same as the HF ones.


"Never had a claim, never had a failed one, except for a car one that was used under a motorhome, no one hurt but the guy wanted to sue, after using it at 10 times it's rating. Settled for a new jack stand..."

LMAO. Is going to sue, but takes a new $6 jack stand instead!:headscrat

Coach


That's what retail is like. Customer comes in, threatening, letter of intent, throwing things.
Two hours of investigation, taking a little look at the site, etc. seeing the broken concrete in the driveway, seeing the damage the Winnebago made when it fell, seeing the 4x4's and jacks while they are still trying to lift the Class C off of the driveway... Then asking if he wanted to be countersued... Then offering to replace the stand. Yep, no problem.
Had worse.

The hot Vega with the exploding can of Freon was more fun… but the lady with the ‘ruined life’ over a 1 dollar misquote on a starter drive still tops em.
Retail, nothing else like it.

blue302stang 12-30-2008 09:27 PM

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http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/pho...9999/39940.gifI bought these on sale for like $8 and they have held up great for what i use them for. PASS

bchee 12-30-2008 09:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky9 (Post 357285)
FInally I feel like i can contribute...
I have a Harbor Frieght store down the street... here is my pile oF pass/fail:

welcome and thanks for the input

Major Ramifications 12-30-2008 09:31 PM

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#93608 Blasting cabinet - PASS
Can't complain about it one bit.

autoace 12-30-2008 09:32 PM

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Wheel bearing press, never saw it anywhere else, works great.PASS,see link

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=45210

autoace 12-30-2008 09:35 PM

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When I broke my Snap-on breaker bar, this one did the job,PASS

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=30395

beelsr 12-31-2008 01:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Adams (Post 356752)
I've been using the HF ones under a F-350 Superduty dually, F-150 new model and of course cars. Show me any weakness in them before posting 'fail' without even trying one.

Well, that'sgreat that you've had good luck with them. When I was rallying, we used Lincoln jackstands and when the car had the jackstand holes in the rail, custom ones we made ourselves. Sometime in there, I got turned onto Norco jacks.

I just wouldn't trust the HF ones but, as I said, I haevn't used them and have never really looked at them too closely whilst in a store.

nissan_crawler 12-31-2008 10:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eschoendorff (Post 355024)
Oddly enough, there is already a new Yahoo group dedicated to this, although it is relatively new, not many posts yet:


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rate_h...guid=254625666


I prefer a thread like this though. The Yahoo group formats are a lot more of a PITA to use compare to these vBulletin forums. You guys might want to check it out though....


Then there is this thread that has been running on pirate4x4.com forever:

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...harbor+freight

I'm surprised that I beat Nissan Crawler to this one :lol:

Hey, I've been on vacation, give me a break.:spit:

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayL (Post 356032)
9 Piece Hollow Punch Set - Fail

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=3838

These are very soft.

I would actually nominate these for a pass, they work great for gasket material. I had no expectations that they would work on metal, though. I back mine up with hardwood or phenolic, I don't use them against metal, either.

HF 2 ton folding cherry picker - pass, but none of the freaking bolt heads were a "standard" size. Not metric, not SAE. I settled for using the least sloppy socket, but none were right. The rings on the hitchpins are booger welded and fall off if you bump them, not an important thing. Would I use it for 2 tons? Hell no. Do I have any 2 ton engines or equipment? No.

HF pipe bender - pass, if you're smart enough to figure them out. It's served its purpose

HF 6' 20 lb digging bar - PASS PASS PASS. I love these things.

HF 1000 lb flat wagon with tie rod steering - pass, but I wouldn't expect it to hold 1000 lbs. It's still damn handy.

HF porta power (forgot the ton rating, it's the big wheeled kit) - pass, especially for a rare use item.

HF drill master step bits - PASS PASS PASS

HF grinding wheels/cutoff wheels - FAAAAIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL I know they work for some people, but after digging two of them out of my sheetrock, no thanks.

HF orange 4.5" grinder - FAAAAIIIIILLLLLLL Again, they work for some people, but I let the magic smoke out of two of them in under ten minutes and they were so hot I could barely touch them. I want a grinder with some grunt behind it.

HF 40 lb sand blaster pot- pass for the most part. Throw the water separator away, it blows up and leaves a big bruise on your foot. throw the pipe fittings away, the hole in them are way too small for some reason. Great no, but it's the same junk you get for $60 more anywhere else. It is what it is.

HF torque wrenches - I haven't owned one personally, but at work they calibrate more consistently than Snap-On's. Way more people have the HF ones, and I haven't heard of ONE failing calibration, but I know of several Snap-Ons that have, including one of mine.


HF c-clamps, hand squeeze clamps - not great at all, but I keep them on hand for fabrication jobs where there's a good chance the clamp is going to get hosed. There's no point jacking up a good Wilton/etc., clamp.

HF 2.5 ton long frame jack - pass, works great. It doesn't have the locking feature for the handle that lets you lift the front of the jack to maneuver it around, but for $300 less, I'll deal with that on occasion.

HF 6 ton jack stands - pass, worked on the farm for years.

HF wheelbarrow - pass, same thing as anywhere else, but cheaper.

HF Nitrile gloves - pass, I hate getting my hands greasy (yeah, yeah)

HF ratchet straps - pass, for what they are. Again, not going to use them near max rating, or on anything I truly care about, but for holding down tree branches, demolition junk, etc., why use good straps?

I'm sure I've missed things, but there's some.

Edit: HF drill press - fail, fell apart after a year of use.

bchee 01-01-2009 01:40 AM

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would it be worthwhile to 'sticky' this thread?

3 at 8 01-01-2009 07:57 AM

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I was hoping someone would have reviewed this one. I've never owned this style or any 3/8" impact for that matter. Thought it might be a convienent low torque timesaver for my vintage garden tractor collection and other small stuff like that. If it has been reviewed, and I missed it, I apologize.





HF 3/8 compact: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...3100&Submit=Go

eschoendorff 01-01-2009 08:36 AM

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Okay... once again, the HF items that seem to fail are the cheapest of the cheap. Seriously, Nicky9, who would use that impact wrench and expect anything from it?


A friend of my brothers, who is a tech, gave some advice that is as true today as it was 5 years ago... before you buy a tool - regardless of the brand name on it - check it out. If it seems cheap and cheesy, it probably is. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

Every once in a while, you get lucky. Those HF step drill bits are a good example. They seem to be too good to be true, but so far I have drilled a lot of holes (some in 3/16" plate steel) with them.

goodfellow 01-01-2009 10:03 AM

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HF 4.5" professional "paddle switch" grinder -- the only grinder HF has that's worth a damn.

HF 12" sliding compound mitre saw. I've cut a huge amount of light gauge aluminum with it and its held up great

HF 4x6" metal cutting bandsaw -- never a problem and going strong after almost 10 years

HF 14" (4 speed) wood bandsaw -- made in Taiwan and is absolutley the best deal out there. It compares to the Taiwanese Jet and Wilton models and is half the price.

HF 44142 large 3-in-1 mill/drill/lathe -- for home garage/shops with limited space, this machine tool provides a lot of function. It's not for professional machinists, but for home automotive machining tasks it has delivered a lot of value.

wrenchr 01-01-2009 10:20 AM

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Fail.....................
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...r/100_0936.jpg

Bolster 01-01-2009 10:30 AM

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Does anybody have experience with the HF tap & die sets? Currently they're advertising a 40+ metric set for $10...

JebNY 01-01-2009 08:42 PM

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This one is a pass with a warning.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/pho...3299/93258.gif
1.5 AMP ONBOARD BATTERY CHARGER

They claim it is water proof and it may be when it is not in use. I used my first one for 1 1/2 years with no problems then complete failure. I dissected and it failed when the water got deep enough inside to short out the circuit board. Turns out the male AC plug is not water proof when there is a cord plugged in. I was using it on a camper battery in a protected area in the bed of my truck but water could blow in under certain circumstances. It worked well enough that I bought another one, but since I now know they are not water proof I drilled a small hole in the bottom corner to hopefully let water out faster than it comes in. Another approach would be to mount it plug down, not an option for my appliation.

It is also a bit noisy if you want to use it in an area that matters.

JebNY

Lhorn 01-02-2009 12:00 AM

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I got a HF tap and die set about 5-7 years ago. The dies are about worthless. I had to put some threads on a rod and the darn thing wouldn't even begin to bite. I pretty much ended up rounding off the end of the rod. Went to Kragen's auto parts and bought a set of dies from what ever cheapo line they carry and it worked perfectly. The absolute bottom drawer set of dies from the local chain autoparts store ran circles around the HF counterpart. I might used them to clean threads in a pinch but I'll never waste a second of my time trying to actually thread something with them.

EPIC FAIL

Danglerb 01-02-2009 03:01 AM

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HF actually makes a set of taps and dies that says not for use on metal, WTF?

3 pc extra long extension set, 24" 3/8, and 18" and 12" 1/4, PASS.

6 pc mini plier set, like $5 on sale, PASS

srosa707 01-02-2009 03:52 AM

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[QUOTE=Stephenw;355188]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/pho...3099/93088.gif


IM going to have to disagree with some of you. Ive had this grinder and ive used the CRAP out of it and its worked great. I think it has a lifetime warranty too. I would definatley get another one if i had too.

nissan_crawler 01-02-2009 04:35 AM

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I work with several people with the cheapo HF die grinders, both of which have outlived my $100 IR die grinder.

3 at 8 01-02-2009 08:33 AM

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[QUOTE=srosa707;359132]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephenw (Post 355188)
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/pho...3099/93088.gif


I think it has a lifetime warranty too.

I just bought one last week and they told me a year.

Nicky9 01-02-2009 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eschoendorff (Post 358290)
Okay... once again, the HF items that seem to fail are the cheapest of the cheap. Seriously, Nicky9, who would use that impact wrench and expect anything from it?

Well obviously ME! :headscrat

I think its truely hit or miss... there are some good batches and some bad batches. I think the theory should be if it has a bunch of moving parts... be weary of it (im pretty sure someone on here has said that)... and expect it to fail. Price has nothing to do with it IMO.

eschoendorff 01-02-2009 12:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky9 (Post 359325)
Well obviously ME! :headscrat

I think its truely hit or miss... there are some good batches and some bad batches. I think the theory should be if it has a bunch of moving parts... be weary of it (im pretty sure someone on here has said that)... and expect it to fail. Price has nothing to do with it IMO.

No, price has a lot to do with it much of the time. I wont say always, but many of us who have been here a while have found that all too often you get what you pay for.

Sometimes you get lucky. Sometimes you find something at HF that is almost identical in build to an item that costs more with a different brand on it somewhere else. Generally, though, the QC for HF items are less stringent than the QC for the same item at another store.

You pay your money and roll the dice...

However, you have to use your head. Seriously, an impact wrench that's worth half a damn is not going to cost $20 new from a store.

nissan_crawler 01-02-2009 12:44 PM

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It all depends, sometimes you just have to buy something knowing you're taking a chance. Dad bought a 3/8" impact for some china tool truck sale that came to town, and it actually has TOO MUCH power for a 3/8", IMHO.

Then again, I don't find much use for 3/8", I use the 1/4" or 1/2".

Nicky9 01-02-2009 03:51 PM

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:moon:
Quote:

Originally Posted by eschoendorff (Post 359381)

However, you have to use your head. Seriously, an impact wrench that's worth half a damn is not going to cost $20 new from a store.

I guess that depends on what you define how much "worth half a damn" is to you? :bounce:
Also, I do not wrench daily, so i can get by without having a pro model, and can I afford to spend that kind of cash. Most of their stuff has a warrenty too. I can easily return any of the poo poo items since i am local to a HF store.

Seriously, I agree w/ you that most of the time you will have to pay for quality.

I will try to get us back on topic:
PASS
pack of 4 microfiber towels for $2.00.

seetherfiend 01-02-2009 04:20 PM

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Their black electrical - MAJOR FAIL!!!! It won't even stick your shoes, let alone an electric cable. 3M, I am soooooooo sorry I strayed, it was just once. I swear it won't happen again!! Glenn

Toy2 01-03-2009 08:47 PM

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12 volt impact///PASS used on a stranded Chevy 1/2 ton.
Mig welder////PASS after making minor adjustments.
Impact sockets////PASS
Sawzaw///PASS-gave this to my father in-law to cut branches.

I just got the $8.00 LED red for my trailer, it works so far...

krooser 01-03-2009 08:56 PM

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HF Drill Press...


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...er/HFDRILL.jpg

eschoendorff 01-03-2009 08:58 PM

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Silver and Demming drill bits - pass, with flying colors. I bored a 9/16 hole into 1/4" steel plate without pre-drilling or anything. Just chucked it in my drill press and went at it. I used the lowest speed, lots of pressure and cutting oil. I got some smoke, but a lot of really nice steel curls. Nice drills for the $36 that I paid for them. I didn't expect them to be this nice.

nissan_crawler 01-03-2009 09:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by krooser (Post 360755)
HF Drill Press...

I forgot that one, definite fail. Save your money for a real press.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschoendorff (Post 360760)
Silver and Demming drill bits - pass, with flying colors.

I've heard that from many people, haven't tried them myself yet.

Toy2 01-03-2009 09:29 PM

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Auto Dark welding helment////PASS

Large Rivet gun////PASS-I know a company that buys these at HF and repacks them and sells them for $30.00

LED solar light///$10- PASS/FAIL lasted about 4 months.....

ROCK4185 01-03-2009 11:09 PM

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Does anyone have a report on the Pittsburgh torque wrenches??

nissan_crawler 01-03-2009 11:59 PM

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pretty much a 100% success rate on them calibrating and lasting at work.

ROCK4185 01-04-2009 12:35 AM

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Thanks Nissan! Sounds like it should work just fine for the occasional use. :thumbup:

strizzy 01-04-2009 12:36 AM

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NONMARRING SCRAPER - PASS

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/pho...5899/95832.gif

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/...bCategoryName=

Love theses. I believe our Snap On guy resells these of his truck. Great for removing decals off surfaces you don't want scratched (such as gel coat). If the edge is ever damaged, you can just use a file to sharpen it right back up.

Bolster 01-05-2009 04:30 PM

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Storage container with 18 dividers ... FAIL. Even at $2 each they're a pain to use. Sharp pinchy latches with sharp corners that require lots of force, and need tedious filing before they work correctly...and how long can those thin little latch hinges hold up?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/pho...4499/94456.gif

Edit: A session with the Foredom flex shaft, and they get a marginal PASS.

onecheck 01-05-2009 07:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nissan_crawler (Post 358143)
Hey, I've been on vacation, give me a break.:spit:



I would actually nominate these for a pass, they work great for gasket material. I had no expectations that they would work on metal, though. I back mine up with hardwood or phenolic, I don't use them against metal, either.

HF 2 ton folding cherry picker - pass, but none of the freaking bolt heads were a "standard" size. Not metric, not SAE. I settled for using the least sloppy socket, but none were right. The rings on the hitchpins are booger welded and fall off if you bump them, not an important thing. Would I use it for 2 tons? Hell no. Do I have any 2 ton engines or equipment? No.

HF pipe bender - pass, if you're smart enough to figure them out. It's served its purpose

HF 6' 20 lb digging bar - PASS PASS PASS. I love these things.

HF 1000 lb flat wagon with tie rod steering - pass, but I wouldn't expect it to hold 1000 lbs. It's still damn handy.

HF porta power (forgot the ton rating, it's the big wheeled kit) - pass, especially for a rare use item.

HF drill master step bits - PASS PASS PASS

HF grinding wheels/cutoff wheels - FAAAAIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL I know they work for some people, but after digging two of them out of my sheetrock, no thanks.

HF orange 4.5" grinder - FAAAAIIIIILLLLLLL Again, they work for some people, but I let the magic smoke out of two of them in under ten minutes and they were so hot I could barely touch them. I want a grinder with some grunt behind it.

HF 40 lb sand blaster pot- pass for the most part. Throw the water separator away, it blows up and leaves a big bruise on your foot. throw the pipe fittings away, the hole in them are way too small for some reason. Great no, but it's the same junk you get for $60 more anywhere else. It is what it is.

HF torque wrenches - I haven't owned one personally, but at work they calibrate more consistently than Snap-On's. Way more people have the HF ones, and I haven't heard of ONE failing calibration, but I know of several Snap-Ons that have, including one of mine.


HF c-clamps, hand squeeze clamps - not great at all, but I keep them on hand for fabrication jobs where there's a good chance the clamp is going to get hosed. There's no point jacking up a good Wilton/etc., clamp.

HF 2.5 ton long frame jack - pass, works great. It doesn't have the locking feature for the handle that lets you lift the front of the jack to maneuver it around, but for $300 less, I'll deal with that on occasion.

HF 6 ton jack stands - pass, worked on the farm for years.

HF wheelbarrow - pass, same thing as anywhere else, but cheaper.

HF Nitrile gloves - pass, I hate getting my hands greasy (yeah, yeah)

HF ratchet straps - pass, for what they are. Again, not going to use them near max rating, or on anything I truly care about, but for holding down tree branches, demolition junk, etc., why use good straps?

I'm sure I've missed things, but there's some.

Edit: HF drill press - fail, fell apart after a year of use.

Which Torque wrench did they use?

http://search.harborfreight.com/cpis...ench&Submit=Go

nissan_crawler 01-05-2009 07:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by onecheck (Post 362819)

the plain mechanical ones with the knob in the bottom to lock it from turning.

I have a 1/2" hong kong louis torque wrench off a cummins tool truck. I paid $9 for it 10 years ago, still meets calibration. I'm not too sure it's not the exact same as what HF sells.

Bolster 01-05-2009 09:16 PM

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Since I started this thread, I nominate myself as its custodian. By which I mean, I'll add links to other HF related discussions as I see them. Should we vote on this? I so move... second ... all in favor ... chorus of "aye," it's done. I'm the official custodian.

HF Impact Sockets…

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=27760

HF Oily Rag Can…

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=27569

bchee 01-05-2009 10:11 PM

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Harbor Freight commercials PASS with flying colors

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/...v1/video1.html

Brad54 01-05-2009 11:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayL (Post 356032)
9 Piece Hollow Punch Set - Fail

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=3838

These are very soft.

I give these a HUGE pass. I only use them for cutting gasket material though... I've made dozens, and I have a cheap dollar store cutting board in the same drawer, that way I can always back up the punches. I love them.

Box of 100 razor blades: Pass. One in the shop, one in the house for the missus.

Hammer drill: Pass/Fail. It's a plastic piece of junk that will get three or four uses out of it. I needed it once, and it was cheaper to buy it then rent one from Home Depot or some other tool store. So technically, it saved me money the one time I used it, and with that logic, it'll make me money the next time I use it. I knew it was junk, but who thinks you're getting a good 1/2-inch hammer drill for $19?

Transfer punch set: PASS

Number punch set: Pass

Parts washer: Pass

Rubber tire chocks: Pass

Magnetic dial gauge base: Pass

Cut off wheels for die grinder: Fail

4.5-inch disc for angle grinder: FAIL, FAIL F'ing FAIL. Painfully Fail. Stupid thing. I'm still pissed 6 years later. Damn that stung.:shocking:

Bead Roller: Pass, but only if you plan on beefing it up or using it as the basis for building your own.

-Brad


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