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NASMAN 12-30-2009 08:21 PM

72-year-old couple building a barn (garage/workshop)
 

Thought that some of the DIY people might like to see what a couple of old enthusiast, with no regard to those that say you can't, are in fact doing.
As the title of this thread says we both turned 70 just a few months ago, we were 69 when we started this. This project is located in Arkansas, where we moved to in 2007. Bought this nice little cabin cause my wife just plain loves it. My problem with it was it had no garage, workshop or any space for extra storage. She said "well than build something"
Most garage workshop buidings in this area are metal buildings on a poured slab, I didn't think that was much of a challenge nor would it go with the house or the property very well.
Original idea was to build a pole barn and pour the floor last. This got altered because of the rock ledge under the only useable area. So I had to build the site up put down the floor and build up from that. Also wanted to do a bit of post and beam type of construction and have in fact incorperated that into the framing.
Arkansas has not been the best place to atempt this. 2009 has been the wettest year since they have been keeping records. (1882) Also when it is hot it is very humid as well. But it is what it is and we are working thru it.
Other than having to have some help to bring in the 13 loads of sb2 fill and level it and to get three real nice locals to actually do the cement pour. (didn't feel I could handle that much cement by myself) All of the rest has been done by us. When I had to do a heavy lift or some other task I would build a device to help us do it. Linda can not lift much and doesn't do well with high places. It takes a lot longer but it is ours and we enjoy it.
I will try to add some pictures, this is my first time on here. We also have over 700 pictures of the project on our website, but not sure we are allowed to link that.
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Above; This is a shot of how the interior will look.
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Above; This picture shows the project as it sits as of today. (Dec.2009) To see how we got to this point continue to scroll thru the pictures. I have put up a lot of pictures but not all that will take you to where we are now. Not sure how many I can post in one sitting. If this works I will add the rest either as a edit to this or as a new post. Thanks for looking and hope we are able to pass along some ideas.
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Above; It will take 13 of these to level it out and base for driveway.
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Above; Drains for gutters were laid under driveway area.
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Above;Fill done and leveled and trimed.
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Above; Starting to dig the footings for the monolithic pour. We let the fill sit for two months and some heavy rain. Boy that stuff gets hard. All hand dug.
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Above; That was hard digging and it was hot too. Note; Water level in the center of pad.
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Above; Forms done and sprayed with release oil.
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Above; Had it sprayed for termites etc. a must in this area.
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Above; Plastic, rebar and wire screen. Ready for cement.
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Above; Setting post and sill plate anchor bolts.
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Above; Finnally something to build on.
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Above; Tarred below ground level.
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Above; Now it is ready.
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Above; This is what I am building to be able to lift the posts and beams into place, so that we can do it by ourselves.
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Above; You can do a lot with a good wife and some c-clamps.
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Above; Will be going up on this a lot so put in a stairway.
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Above; Base is done, next will add second story and the hoist.
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Above; Adding top A section. Bottom attached with some gate hinges we had.
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Above; Using a com-a-long to pull top A up.
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Above; Two inch sch.80 pipe thru the A's.
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Above; Hoist lifted and put into place with com-a-long.
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Above; Ready to do some work. Lin has named it Derrick!!
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Above; Layout for center section rafters.
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Above; Making a template for center rafter gussets.
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Above; Rafter gussets precut from template. Short ones on top are for gable ends.
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Above; Doing the cut for the birdmouth. Using a real true 2 x 4 as a guide.
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Above; Rafters cut and ready to assemble.
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Above; Love my nail gun. Also laid down a line of construction glue before nailing.
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Above; These 12 ready to use, but will be put in a storage bay until we need them. 5 more to make that will be the top of the cants. Check out Lin sweeping up. Every step is cleaned up, she just plain makes it all work.
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Above; This one is for the front gable end and has a support to hold a decorative beam.
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Above; Built these router jigs to notch out the main posts. Made out of an old table leaf that was left from previous owner of house, and some scrap pieces.
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Above; 17 douglas fir posts that were in Texas and shipped up here. 16 footers. Best 10 will be the main posts in the center, 5 will be cut in have for outside posts, 2 will be cut into brace pieces. All were real nice but a bit expensive.
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Above; Posts graded and marked as to which will be used for and where.
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Above; Braces being cut from the two selected posts.I use a DeWalt compund mitre saw that I alltred to get more depth of cut.
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Above; Saw guide to make cuts on ends so that will fit into notches in posts. These are cut with a Milwaukee framing saw.
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Above; This is how these will fit.
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Above; Using the previous shown jigs with a router to notch the post. Douglas fir machines real nice, throws out a lot of chips.
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Above; Post with first notch ready to be fitted with brace.
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Above; Only nine more to go.
To continue to see the project go to page two of this thread and we will be posting as many as we can. The program has a cutoff of text at 10,000 so it seems that the way I am doing it I can only put apx. 40 pics in one post. Or as always you can view the whole project at www.ninetyninesigns.com . Enjoy.

OccupantRJ 12-30-2009 08:30 PM

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Sir, I commend your perseverance, imagination, and determination! My kind of man. Never give up.

GeorgiaHybrid 12-30-2009 08:31 PM

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Let me one of the first to welcome you and to say "WOW". That is a beautiful post and beam frame and a neat adaptation of a barn style frame for a garage. You can link to your site from here or pick the pics you wish us to see and post the links as above.

Keep us in the loop as the shop progesses. This is looking to be one of my favorites on this site.

inliner1940 12-30-2009 08:41 PM

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Welcome to the site.
I also commend you on your journey and destination. It is looking good.
Yes, we have to engineer things to help us when we do not have help. Been there, doing that too.

Good luck, hope to see more of your progress.

Walt

HotRodKush 12-30-2009 08:41 PM

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Subscribing, this is awesome.

colt zantop 12-30-2009 08:42 PM

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wow...we have had some incredible builds (1930's auto shop) and now this one posted just in the last week!!!! a couple of my favorites already! I cant wait to see it finished!

AWESOME WORK!

Bull 12-30-2009 08:52 PM

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This is indeed a good week here at the GJ...another awesome new build for us!

I love barns, a lot, so of course I love your building. Is that called a "monitor" style, because of the way the second story is?

Your ingenuity that is allowing you to raise the posts and beams yourself is impressive...I don't have the mind for it, no way!

Welcome, and post as many additional pics in this thread as you can!

bobemmerich 12-30-2009 08:58 PM

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Simply put-AWESOME!

tdkkart 12-30-2009 09:02 PM

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Took the liberty of figuring out the link the project:
http://www.ninetyninesigns.com/barnproject/h2ome33.html

Cryptic1911 12-30-2009 09:39 PM

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Wow, nothing like a couple oldtimers showing us youngins how its done! Great job! looks beautiful so far.

Mickey O 12-30-2009 09:59 PM

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So this is what you kids do when left to your own devices, absolutely fantastic.

Fueler 12-30-2009 10:03 PM

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I appreciate the Egyptian style engineering in your Derrick. That's a compliment by the way.

I do think we are going to have to call you Wilson (tool time Tim's neighbor) since that hat always seems to be in the way. :bounce:

WhatThaFrig 12-30-2009 10:08 PM

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All I can say is.........WOW!!! Great work!

bobadame 12-30-2009 10:32 PM

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Really inspiring project there. I'm also building a monitor style barn but I'm only 61 years old. That is a beautiful building for sure.

NASMAN 12-30-2009 10:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tdkkart (Post 710220)
Took the liberty of figuring out the link the project:
http://www.ninetyninesigns.com/barnproject/h2ome33.html

I wondered if someone might not do that. You are correct and thanks all for the kind words.
If I close this down and get some z's, I will post more pics tomorrow adding to the original post.
Actually the web site URL is one of three that we had before we moved here. We used to sell reproduction signs on the net. (among other things) I kept this one just in case I needed it for something like this. It's cheap, hosted by Go Daddy. www.ninetyninesigns.com also will get you on the full site.
Thanks Lin and Dave

NASMAN 12-30-2009 11:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bull (Post 710194)
This is indeed a good week here at the GJ...another awesome new build for us!

I love barns, a lot, so of course I love your building. Is that called a "monitor" style, because of the way the second story is?

Welcome, and post as many additional pics in this thread as you can!

Yes you are quite right, It is called a Monitor Barn. Also known as an RCA (for raised center aisle) Barn.

OldtruckDude 12-30-2009 11:12 PM

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Great Barn! I am inspired by you and your wife. Thanks for taking the time to post and Welcome to the Board!:beer:

john

c5golfguy 12-30-2009 11:26 PM

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Just got into Las Cruces, NM on my way back to Atlanta from the holidays and had to log into GJ. My wife and I are exactly half your age and we had to pick our jaws up from the floor b/c we are just in awe of you and your wife's dedication, expertise, and creativity. Thank you for posting this and sharing your gorgeous barn with us. I'm subscribing, you got me hooked!

Mr Mushman 12-31-2009 02:51 AM

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You guys are definitely an inspiration, and by inviting us into your journey, you have definitely "taken away our rights to complain" about anything we could be going through during our own projects. This is such a huge undertaking to say the least ... Even though Christmas has just passed, the presents keep on coming. I commend you and your wife for all your amazing work and energy, thank you for being an inspiration to me and I am sure to many of us here at GJ. Pretty much anything is possible at any age ... When there is a will, there is a way and you guys are the living proof ...

Daniel Dudley 12-31-2009 05:09 AM

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Of course we can't wait to see what you did next...

Nice Project.


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