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AdamsAutoAdvice · 03-04-2011, 10:09 PM

I thought the members of GJ might be interested to see this.

Matco/Craftsman Ratchet

-Adam

22rifle · 03-04-2011, 10:14 PM

Interesting. BTW, there is a typo in your first sentence. "worked" should be "work".

Buckgnarly · 03-04-2011, 10:17 PM

Kinda like "Blue Point" and relabeled products.....no company is immune.....

bchee · 03-04-2011, 10:26 PM

Technically the $20 craftsman has a bigger head and only 36 teeth ( I think).

I think the Matco has 60 and a lower profile head.

stephen9666 · 03-04-2011, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bchee

Technically the $20 craftsman has a bigger head and only 36 teeth ( I think).

I think the Matco has 60 and a lower profile head.

+1 - That's the first thing I thought. This ratchet appears to have the 60-tooth head.

otis66 · 03-05-2011, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bchee

Technically the $20 craftsman has a bigger head and only 36 teeth ( I think).

I think the Matco has 60 and a lower profile head.

My matco stubby ratchet is 36 tooth. Just like my craftsman stubby ratchet.

otis66 · 03-05-2011, 01:43 AM

Is there a USA stamped on that ratchet?

otis66 · 03-05-2011, 01:47 AM

I just checked the Matco web site and the new stubby ratchets are 88 tooth.

Daddy_Rabbit · 03-04-2011, 10:49 PM

wouldnt be that difficult to drive the pin out of the handle and change out the heads ... i think it smells very fishy considering a competitor has it and is using it to his benefit.

bchee · 03-04-2011, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy_Rabbit

i think it smells very fishy considering a competitor has it and is using it to his benefit.

that's true too

AdamsAutoAdvice · 03-05-2011, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy_Rabbit

wouldnt be that difficult to drive the pin out of the handle and change out the heads ... i think it smells very fishy considering a competitor has it and is using it to his benefit.

This would not surprise me either. This actually first crossed my mind. I mean obviously the Snap-On man wants you to feel like spending huge amounts of $$$ on his tools is worth it.

Craftsman and Matco are made by Danaher. It's totally possible this is manufacturing defect that they overlooked.

Theloniousmonk · 03-05-2011, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy_Rabbit

wouldnt be that difficult to drive the pin out of the handle and change out the heads ... i think it smells very fishy considering a competitor has it and is using it to his benefit.

+1 Can't believe everything we see on the interwebz. It's odd, as stated by others, that the new marketing campaign comparing SO/Matco/Cman recently came out, and now this shows up...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fedwrench

Could be a marketing prop to brand bash, could be someone asleep at the assembly plant, who knows or cares other than the Snap on man?
I do feel that comparing brands across the Danaher/Apex line isn't a very good marketing strategy though. You might accidently point out to the tech that only flagged a few hours for the week, that a Danaher $20 stubby flexhead ratchet might do the job for you instead of paying $75 for the Snap on version.

Your sig. tells the truth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamsAutoAdvice

This would not surprise me either. This actually first crossed my mind. I mean obviously the Snap-On man wants you to feel like spending huge amounts of $$$ on his tools is worth it.

Craftsman and Matco are made by Danaher. It's totally possible this is manufacturing defect that they overlooked.

Yup. Things happen... just shows there are options for frankensteining a ratchet or two... I used to take my GIjoes apart and put different arms/heads/legs/bodies back together... Every see a Crimson Guard w/ a Gungho head? Now, if we can only figure out how to cut/drill the new Cman premiums to fit a flex

diesel research · 03-05-2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Theloniousmonk

Now, if we can only figure out how to cut/drill the new Cman premiums to fit a flex

Why go to the trouble?

Add a matco 88 kit and be done with it.

Theloniousmonk · 03-05-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by diesel research

Why go to the trouble?

Add a matco 88 kit and be done with it.

boredom? I like the new premium handles.

Though the Arm's handles are quite nice too. It is hard to beat a 88 in a Arm, imo.

tonydanzah · 03-04-2011, 11:21 PM

its definitly a 60 tooth head, that i would bet the dealer swapped

Skin · 03-05-2011, 02:22 AM

oh my god its stamped CRAFTSMAN ON THE HANDLE!

/me throws hundreds at SO man

take it take it just save me from this horror!

diesel research · 03-05-2011, 06:17 AM

Quote:

This was a ratchet that one of my customers sent back to Matco for warranty replacement. They sent him back this one! It was a manufacturing mistake, but it shows where the ratchets are made.

Not really lol. Especially since neither has a ratchet manufacturing facility. So his little "clue" really offers no real clue of origin.

Should be no surprise that these guys are producing them.
http://www.apex-tools.com/brands/index.cfm

Old Donn · 03-05-2011, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skin

oh my god its stamped CRAFTSMAN ON THE HANDLE!

/me throws hundreds at SO man

take it take it just save me from this horror!

Good one, Skin.

Daddy_Rabbit · 03-05-2011, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skin

oh my god its stamped CRAFTSMAN ON THE HANDLE!

/me throws hundreds at SO man

take it take it just save me from this horror!

sadly this is very close to the truth for some.

Captain Americana · 03-05-2011, 06:29 AM

Both brands are made by Danaher Tool Corp.

03-04-2011, 10:09 PM	#1
AdamsAutoAdvice Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 632	Matco/Craftsman Ratchet I thought the members of GJ might be interested to see this. Matco/Craftsman Ratchet -Adam __________________ Adam's Auto Advice - Auto Awesomeness Singing Dogs - Yup, Singing Dogs! :) CarNewsCafe - The best car news around

03-04-2011, 10:14 PM	#2
22rifle Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 859	Re: Matco/Craftsman Ratchet Interesting. BTW, there is a typo in your first sentence. "worked" should be "work".

03-04-2011, 10:17 PM	#3
Buckgnarly Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: VT Posts: 2,755	Re: Matco/Craftsman Ratchet Kinda like "Blue Point" and relabeled products.....no company is immune.....

03-05-2011, 01:43 AM	#7
otis66 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,726	Re: Matco/Craftsman Ratchet Is there a USA stamped on that ratchet?

03-05-2011, 01:47 AM	#8
otis66 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,726	Re: Matco/Craftsman Ratchet I just checked the Matco web site and the new stubby ratchets are 88 tooth.

03-04-2011, 10:49 PM	#9
Daddy_Rabbit Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 793	Re: Matco/Craftsman Ratchet wouldnt be that difficult to drive the pin out of the handle and change out the heads ... i think it smells very fishy considering a competitor has it and is using it to his benefit.

03-04-2011, 11:21 PM	#15
tonydanzah Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: the champagne of people Posts: 5,046	Re: Matco/Craftsman Ratchet its definitly a 60 tooth head, that i would bet the dealer swapped __________________ Cheap,fast,reliable. You can chose only 2. Rip Ryan Dunn http://www.usenglish.org/

03-05-2011, 02:22 AM	#16
Skin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 4,661	Re: Matco/Craftsman Ratchet oh my god its stamped CRAFTSMAN ON THE HANDLE! /me throws hundreds at SO man take it take it just save me from this horror!

03-05-2011, 06:29 AM	#20
Captain Americana Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: A Van By The River/Radiator Springs CA Posts: 13	Re: Matco/Craftsman Ratchet Both brands are made by Danaher Tool Corp.

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