Reorganization, it's like a renovation.

GirlnAgarage · Sep 9, 2011

My trademark is a snail's pace lol

The EZ lock cutting discs actually last a reasonable workload. I first used them cutting a couple pieces of 1/4"x4" C-channel on another project. They definitely hold up better than those thin abrasive discs that come with the starter dremel kit.

These ones

I've been using and abusing my dremel and my craftman rotary and knock on wood they've survived. I think they key is to stay patient and let the blade/disc/drum do the work instead of cranking down pressure. Keeps the dremel from overheating or dying a quick overtorqued death.

mdbeck1 · Sep 10, 2011

GirlnAgarage said:
My trademark is a snail's pace lol

The EZ lock cutting discs actually last a reasonable workload. I first used them cutting a couple pieces of 1/4"x4" C-channel on another project. They definitely hold up better than those thin abrasive discs that come with the starter dremel kit.

These ones

I've been using and abusing my dremel and my craftman rotary and knock on wood they've survived. I think they key is to stay patient and let the blade/disc/drum do the work instead of cranking down pressure. Keeps the dremel from overheating or dying a quick overtorqued death.

Hmmm... I might have to get some of those... I don't use the dremel too much because the little metal disks either break or wear out too quick.

thanks.

GirlnAgarage · Sep 10, 2011

I think they're worth having in the dremel box. I grabbed the little $12 pack with about 5 discs and the spindle.

The discs are a little more tolerant when they get off perpendicular, they stay straighter and don't flex near as much. I don't know how many of those thin abrasive discs I shattered. Knock on wood, I haven't broken one of these yet.

Supposedly there is an EZ ock grinding disc that I'd love to use with the 90* attachment. I'd essentially have a mini right angle grinder. But that 90* gets terrible reviews so I have not purchased it.

Red Leader · Sep 10, 2011

GirlInAGarage,

That whole last page, I have to be honest, I had no idea what the heck you were doing :lol:

I had to look up what a 'press brake' was...and then everything clicked...'Oh, a metal bender thing!'

That is quite an ambitious and cool project. And of course now I want to build one too

Nice work

mdbeck1 · Sep 10, 2011

You know I considered building a brake until I ran across this one (http://www.harborfreight.com/18-inch-bending-brake-39103.html). I almost immediately wanted a larger one but "made do" with the one I had bought.

Have you considered just purchasing one?

GirlnAgarage · Sep 10, 2011

Red Leader said:
GirlInAGarage,

That whole last page, I have to be honest, I had no idea what the heck you were doing

I had to look up what a 'press brake' was...and then everything clicked...'Oh, a metal bender thing!'

That is quite an ambitious and cool project. And of course now I want to build one too

Nice work

Thanks.

mdbeck1 said:
You know I considered building a brake until I ran across this one (http://www.harborfreight.com/18-inch-bending-brake-39103.html). I almost immediately wanted a larger one but "made do" with the one I had bought.

Have you considered just purchasing one?

You know I did think about buying one but I was on the fence a little bit because of the size of my pieces and them being 16ga. My bends on the drawers are between 20-26" wide. I was kind of at the cutoff point where I needed to jump up to the 36" or 48" press brake (depending what width was available). After reading some of the luke warm reviews and looking at the price I decided to go ahead and build a unit that should do the job. I've got some time and $78 in it now and I'm really enjoying working on this stuff. I've never built bigger metal projects on my own so this is new territory for me. It's a simple tool but still needs attention to detail. I realized that yesterday as I was looking at the first bolt and pieces of pipe that will become the hinge. I kept thinking, all this work for four little pieces. I'm eating up the challenge. Last night I didn't sleep a wink. All that kept running through my mind was how I'll notch the pieces today :badteeth:

Besides if it just doesn't work I got some great legs for a welding table

51rider · Sep 10, 2011

Been following this since your first post & really impressed with one bite at a time & steady progress you are making.

Ok, I'm going to bite on the hook from a few posts back -" titanium plate & screws" you have me intrigued...?
If it is not something you care to talk about, I will understand.

GirlnAgarage · Sep 10, 2011

51rider said:
Been following this since your first post & really impressed with one bite at a time & steady progress you are making.

Ok, I'm going to bite on the hook from a few posts back -" titanium plate & screws" you have me intrigued...?
If it is not something you care to talk about, I will understand.

Thanks 51rider. The plate and screws are hardware from a cervical fusion. I broke c5-c7 among other injuries from a single vehicle rollover when I was in college. I've got a handful of interesting permanent affects (when the vertebral horns were pulverized) but the worst was losing use of my left arm. Nerves weren't severed as far as they could tell, but the trauma was enough to render them done. I had to learn to walk again too. Talk about tough. Learning the first time around is easier, plus you don't know any curse words at that young age

I'm still waiting for the bionic nerve stuff to come out. I just need a new wire run from my spinal cord out to my arm. Should be pretty simple right?

51rider · Sep 10, 2011

Thank you for sharing-it does make your achievements even more impressive although from other comments I don't believe you are one to sit around feeling sorry for yourself.

As I said earlier I admire your achivements, which If I am honest, put others with full use of all limbs to shame.

Again, a few posts back you mentioned marathon running, I think. Is this for fun, fund raising or should I look foryou in the Paralympics here in London next year?

GirlnAgarage · Sep 10, 2011

hehe no big contests for me. I run to stay in shape. I've been an athlete all my life so I try to stay active. I got good genes, thanks goodness, and I believe that helped me through the tough times.

Hinge pins and pipe are done. Going to measure and start notching angle iron...after I eat something.

c/o say · Sep 11, 2011

When you get your brake done you are going to have fun with it. I just started sheet metal work I started making a few socket boxes then bent up some open top boxes for storing cut off wheels and sanding discs. It is a lot of fun. Btw do you make the wrench rolls and wraps you are using as your avatar they are nice.

GirlnAgarage · Sep 11, 2011

c/o say said:
When you get your brake done you are going to have fun with it. I just started sheet metal work I started making a few socket boxes then bent up some open top boxes for storing cut off wheels and sanding discs. It is a lot of fun. Btw do you make the wrench rolls and wraps you are using as your avatar they are nice.

You just said what I had been thinking about socket boxes. I'm hoping to add a few sheet metal items to my repertoire. Today I worked a little more on my press brake, a bit, not too much on this special day. These cuts take forever without a band, chop or metal saw. Anyway, the recip saw with metal blades is doing better than the cutting wheels. I'll cut the rest in the next couple days then weld on the hinges. I'm excited :bounce:

Yup, I put together that wrench roll this evening :beer:

It's for a metric set I'm sending out. Putting together an SAE wrap to go with.

c/o say · Sep 11, 2011

Have you posted your leather work any where else I'd like to see more. The skills of the members on G/J just amazes me. Nice job on your renovation/ reorganization.

Rezarf · Sep 12, 2011

GirlnAgarage said:
As usual it isn't square or level - my trademarks.

now thats funny! :spit:

GirlnAgarage · Sep 12, 2011

c/o say said:
Have you posted your leather work any where else I'd like to see more. The skills of the members on G/J just amazes me. Nice job on your renovation/ reorganization.

Thank you. I'm actually in leather work; got a business and website. But here on the forum I'm just GirlnAGarage :beer:

Rezarf said:
now thats funny!

GirlnAgarage · Sep 13, 2011

Haven't really worked on the press brake in the last day or two. Took it easy on Sunday and yesterday I sort of killed the day digging through a new CL acquired tool box then had a soccer game at night. My drawer slides were sitting on the door step when I got home. The first thing I think is "Oh no, I need to hurry up and get to work!".

Drawer slides $58 This was a heavy little package.

I have **** all over the garage :eyecrazy:

Went to get this

Came back with all this

I'm getting all this organized and cleaned up so I can get this stuff out of here! I need to focus on my drawers and playing with tools doesn't allow me to do that. :spit:

Red Leader · Sep 13, 2011

GirlnAgarage said:
I need to focus on my drawers and playing with tools doesn't allow me to do that.

I feel like we all have the same issue. I'd almost go as far as calling this forum a focus group, except things never seems to get better

W650Mike · Sep 13, 2011

Hey now...you can't just drop the hint on the leatherwork and leave us hanging!

So was that your holster that I guessed as Galco?

tinbender 66 · Sep 13, 2011

I'm getting all this organized and cleaned up so I can get this stuff out of here! I need to focus on my drawers and playing with tools doesn't allow me to do that. :spit:

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Yeah, get goin' on that brake

. As a life long sheet metal man I'm curious to see how it turns out. 16 ga. is a workout. A few years ago I picked up a Milwaukee Porta-Band saw for $140. I makes cutting heavy metal a breeze. Just a thought.

rickairmedic · Sep 13, 2011

Paul a portaband would be quite a handfull with the use of only one hand . Now a nice little 4X6 unit from harbor freight on the other hand cound be used single handedly pretty easy

.

Rick

GirlnAgarage · Sep 13, 2011

Red Leader said:
I feel like we all have the same issue. I'd almost go as far as calling this forum a focus group, except things never seems to get better

You hit the nail on the head. I didn't have a problem, well this problem (I have others) until I came to GJ.

W650Mike said:
Hey now...you can't just drop the hint on the leatherwork and leave us hanging!

So was that your holster that I guessed as Galco?

Yeah Mike, you totally insulted me. Mom always said if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. :lol_hitti

JK Yeah, that was my work.

tinbender 66 said:
Yeah, get goin' on that brake. As a life long sheet metal man I'm curious to see how it turns out. 16 ga. is a workout. A few years ago I picked up a Milwaukee Porta-Band saw for $140. I makes cutting heavy metal a breeze. Just a thought.

Oh I heard about the workout so I'm interested to see how much I can get done. If I'm really fighting it, I might score a fold line to give me a cheat. Luckily my garage is wide enough I can put a real long handle on it :lol_hitti

rickairmedic said:
Paul a portaband would be quite a handfull with the use of only one hand . Now a nice little 4X6 unit from harbor freight on the other hand cound be used single handedly pretty easy .

Rick

Rick, I looked a while back at horizontal band saws. They look pretty handy and something I could use. It's an item I need when I need it, but I never have a time where I put extra money towards it when nothing is going on. The project is already in full swing taking up resources when I remember I need one. D-oh!

Ok, off to the PO. The better get something done. :beer:

tinbender 66 · Sep 13, 2011

Sorry Garage Girl, I forgot you have to do everything one-armed when I suggested the Porta-band.

One thing to keep in mind. You need the bending part of that brake REALLY beefy. The 16 ga. is going to want to "roll" in the middle so maybe some reinforcement there, especially for the clamping part.

The scribing idea might just be the ticket. You'll get a nice sharp bend. We used to do that on 1/8th" aluminun wall panels. Came out nice. Of course we had a CNC router table to "scribe" them for us

. But hey, no reason we can't do what a 100K machine can do. Just takes longer

.

GirlnAgarage · Sep 13, 2011

tinbender 66 said:
Sorry Garage Girl, I forgot you have to do everything one-armed when I suggested the Porta-band.

One thing to keep in mind. You need the bending part of that brake REALLY beefy. The 16 ga. is going to want to "roll" in the middle so maybe some reinforcement there, especially for the clamping part.

The scribing idea might just be the ticket. You'll get a nice sharp bend. We used to do that on 1/8th" aluminun wall panels. Came out nice. Of course we had a CNC router table to "scribe" them for us. But hey, no reason we can't do what a 100K machine can do. Just takes longer.

No worries :beer:

For my brake I'm using a 4' long 3x3x1/4" angle. And my pieces I need to bend are between 20 and 26" long. I was thinking if I started having trouble with the sheet metal moving on me I'd drill another hole somewhere in that length and add another bolt (of course placing it so I can fit the width of my pieces in between the bolts).

I'm interested to see how this goes. Never worked with sheet metal.

rickairmedic · Sep 13, 2011

Girl take a look at the harbor freight brake and you will see the bracing that Paul is talking about on the upper part of the brake which stiffens it up .

Rick

GirlnAgarage · Sep 13, 2011

rickairmedic said:
Girl take a look at the harbor freight brake and you will see the bracing that Paul is talking about on the upper part of the brake which stiffens it up .

Rick

Ahh ok, I see. If I notice any problems I'll brace up that top piece.

Red Leader · Sep 14, 2011

GirlnAgarage said:
Yeah Mike, you totally insulted me. Mom always said if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. JK Yeah, that was my work.

Hmm, must have missed the picture. So what stays in the holster?

Outlawmws · Sep 14, 2011

GirlnAgarage said:
Ahh ok, I see. If I notice any problems I'll brace up that top piece.

If the brace you are talking about is that flattish inverted "V" with a post, make it so the post is a bolt, (About 1/2" coarse thread) and get an all thread coupler (Looks like a long nut about 2-3" long...) and then you can add or remove tension from the brace. A jam nut is optional, but probably a good idea.

Weld the bolt head to the apex of the "V" and rest the long nut (Start with it almost fully engaged to the bolt) on the Angle.

You can take a 3/8" fine thread bold and cut the head off leaving just 1/4" or less and use that as a "Post" threaded into the angle to keep the long 1/2" nut from wandering on the angle. Just cut off and file smooth any remnants of the 3/8 bolt shank.

GirlnAgarage · Sep 14, 2011

Red Leader said:
Hmm, must have missed the picture. So what stays in the holster?

Built for an M&P 9c

Outlawmws said:
If the brace you are talking about is that flattish inverted "V" with a post, make it so the post is a bolt, (About 1/2" coarse thread) and get an all thread coupler (Looks like a long nut about 2-3" long...) and then you can add or remove tension from the brace. A jam nut is optional, but probably a good idea.

Weld the bolt head to the apex of the "V" and rest the long nut (Start with it almost fully engaged to the bolt) on the Angle.

You can take a 3/8" fine thread bold and cut the head off leaving just 1/4" or less and use that as a "Post" threaded into the angle to keep the long 1/2" nut from wandering on the angle. Just cut off and file smooth any remnants of the 3/8 bolt shank.

Ok, I will get that together. I appreciate the details on that. I didn't think of the support having adjustable tension (though I saw the bolt in the pics I didn't put two and two together

).

W650Mike · Sep 14, 2011

W650Mike said:
Hey now...you can't just drop the hint on the leatherwork and leave us hanging!

So was that your holster that I guessed as Galco?

Quoting oneself is weird but...you still haven't addressed the first part!

I see you're busy with the garage, but I'm surely not alone in my interest in good holsters. If applicable, and if you want to, show us what you do in leatherwork.

BTW: The saw guide is a great idea.

GirlnAgarage · Sep 14, 2011

W650Mike said:
Quoting oneself is weird but...you still haven't addressed the first part!

I see you're busy with the garage, but I'm surely not alone in my interest in good holsters. If applicable, and if you want to, show us what you do in leatherwork.

BTW: The saw guide is a great idea.

I'm being evasive intentionally. As I said to c/o, I do leather work, I have a site, I have a business. But on GJ I would like to just remain GirlnAGarage

mdbeck1 · Sep 14, 2011

GirlnAgarage said:
I'm being evasive intentionally. As I said to c/o, I do leather work, I have a site, I have a business. But on GJ I would like to just remain GirlnAGarage

So why not PM him the link to you're site and see what he has to say? I'll bet it won't be anything bad. That wrench roll (?) in your avatar is kind of different.

GirlnAgarage · Sep 14, 2011

Wooo! Got the sucker cut up and welded. Took a few days working a couple hours, little by little. But, it's about ready to go. The recip saw and metal blades worked well. The thing that slowed me down was me. I'd get tired holding/working the saw so I had to pause a lot.

Getting the hinges on was a trick. It involved spacers, washers, screwdrivers, hammers, luck... but I got my ugly welds on there and was able to keep things mostly straight.

Missed it by just a little bit. Gap on the left is .020"ish and the right is .070"is at 90* :headscrat

Need to notch a little more off the top piece. I didn't account for my welds. Then it's in service. Well, after I cut my drawers.

rickairmedic · Sep 14, 2011

Looking good almost ready to fold some sheet there

.

Rick

ihredo4 · Sep 15, 2011

Now I see hiow that goes together. I was having a brain fart and couldn't understand what you was doing. Looks good. Guess I need to make one myself now. Thanks. Love the rehab you are doing in the garage.

GirlnAgarage · Sep 15, 2011

Here's the set

rickairmedic said:
Looking good almost ready to fold some sheet there .

Rick

Darn tootin'

ihredo4 said:
Now I see hiow that goes together. I was having a brain fart and couldn't understand what you was doing. Looks good. Guess I need to make one myself now. Thanks. Love the rehab you are doing in the garage.

haha yeah, this one is fairly simple. Ive seen more complicated designs. :beer:

tinbender 66 · Sep 15, 2011

Nice work!!!

c/o say · Sep 15, 2011

Curse you girl now I want a set of wrenches in there own wrench roll don't need em but damm now I want em. They look sharp. Nice job on the brake looks good.

GirlnAgarage · Sep 15, 2011

c/o say said:
Curse you girl now I want a set of wrenches in there own wrench roll don't need em but damm now I want em. They look sharp. Nice job on the brake looks good.

Just giving back to GJ as GJ has given to me :lol_hitti

Outlawmws · Sep 15, 2011

GirlnAgarage said:
Just giving back to GJ as GJ has given to me

"Revenge is a dish best served cold." :evil:

GirlnAgarage · Sep 17, 2011

Press Brake is operational. Excellent.

I know the 16ga will be a heckuva lot more work but this old blade was all I had to stick in there. It'll go a hair past 90* but if I wanna do a little more I'll need to bevel the lead edge on the top piece. Not necessary but something I can do later down the road. I already want to find a few ways to mod this to make things quick and easy but that'll come with time. For now, looks like it'll work as needed.

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