Question for the Mustang people

[sirsloop]

Check the fender lips where the hood seam is... If its factory there should be stickers there. It should also indicate if it's been repainted.

[BWS]

Had a 91.....one of the worst things about it was the way Fowd engineer'd the cruise control.Its this little plastic POS that completely wipes out any and all,"touchy-feely" between your foot and TB.IOWs.....its removal makes throttle response(along with alittle TPS adj)10 times better.

And typical of Fords from that period the wiring is/was penny pinched.So little issues with wiring might be a pain.Other than those and a cpl other minor things....they're pretty reliable.My four sons all learned to drive in our manual,GT.......and they didn't kill it.

[NUTTSGT]

Originally Posted by Murphy4570

Yes there is. Aftermarket support is large enough that you can practically build a whole car with nothing but a shell.

If local parts stores don't have what you want, call up Mustang parts suppliers, like www.50resto.com , or www.CJponyparts.com , or http://www.foxresto.com/ etc etc ad nauseum. Early Mustang suppliers who cater to 1964-1973 Mustang owners have been getting into the latemodel parts business as well.

Window switch:

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...ehicle=Mustang



If the car is in perfect shape, expect it to be worth $6-8,000 or so. 5 speed option will raise the value slightly over automatic, and the black interior raises the value as well. It is a GT model, as all 5.0 convertibles were GTs. 1991 was the first year for the Pony 16" aluminum wheels for GT and LX 5.0 models.

You posted a minute before I did with your link.


Not all verts were GTs though, there's many LX verts out there.

[Kevin54]

From what I was reading last night on different sites, I believe this Mustang is an LX and not a GT. All of the GT's I saw had trunk spoilers on them and the LX's, most of those had the luggage rack. I could be wrong though, but that's what I got out of reading. I'm going to check it out here shortly.

[Brownsfan]

It may have been a lx converted to a GT. I have seen a couple gt with just the luggage rack. I have a pic on my phone of a 1990 GT Vert with the luggage rack. It is more than likely a GT. The car I have a pic of is a 2 owner 20k mile cream puff. I did a full custom stereo system in it. That is one other thing that sucks in those. The factory stereo is awful. Thats why it is even hard to find one with factory radio and speakers in it. If that one has all factory stereo in it, that is even more rare

[Kevin54]

It is a GT. I was mistaken on that part. The wife and I did take it out to test it. It runs like a scalded dog. This owner is the second owner and the first owner was, according to him a bank executive that bought it new. He also tells me that is has set in the garage every night, never saw any snow, and very little rain if any. The owner now did make some mods to it.

Stainless steel exhaust
Hotchkiss trailing arms
New shocks and struts all around
Larger cam
GT40 heads
GT40 intake
4 core radiator
K&N air intake
New stereo
New Cooper Cobra tires
Complete rebuilt trans. Using Kevlar bands. At least that is what I think he said.
3:55 gears in the rearend
Shift kit in the trans. He explained how the innerds of the trans works that it takes the gear ratio of the rear, but when you are in second it's like having 4:11 gears. I can't quite remember all that he said about it.
Trans rebuild was $1600
Heads and intake (GT40) was $1400
New 4 core radiator was $400
Suspension components I can't remember the $$$ amount

I think that is it as far as I can remember.
Also the underneath is super clean and I couldn't see anything wrong with it. The wife and I looked it all over.

Now the bad.

My wife hitting me when the tires broke loose from a rolling stop. And under acceleration she can't raise herself up out of the seat to hit me again.

It does have a slight coolant leak that the owner is going to have taken care of in the next few days.

There are no dents anywhere but one small spot at the rear corner of the bottom of the back bumper with what looks like stress marks. Or it could be where it was buffed out and detailed. I didn't notice it until I was going around on the creeper looking underneath.

The center console glove box doesn't latch.

Driver side window could stand to be adjusted somewhat.

The door pockets on the inside need to have new elastic put in them.

The driver seat from getting in and out has wore the leather from the corner on the seat back.

What I see the car needs is just a few minor things and the coolant leak fixed, and a good detailing inside and out to really make it stand out in a crowd. He was told by the Ford dealer here in town that it is one of only about 800 that Ford made in triple black.

The good thing is I know this guy very well. He takes super care of everything that he has, and he has been a car guy for years. He's 65 and come from a car family and has had other sweet rides, so I know when he tells me he is going to do something he does it, and when he says he will get it fixed, he will get it fixed.

The only downside I see is that he is asking $10,000 for it. He will come down a little depending on how much it takes to get the leak fixed properly. He may drop a grand but I think he might only budge $500 when it is all said and done.

I just don't know whether I want to drop 10G's on a Fox Body Mustang. It's not a collectors item although at some point it may be. And if I get it, it will set for 5 months out of the year in the garage. And even with all that he has put into it, it is still a '91 Mustang, although one that with a few dollars dropped into it for the small things would bring an excellent rating as far as Kelley Blue Book. But even at that, a '91 only brings around $5000 with KBB and that's coming off of a dealer.

Momma and I will talk it over but when it's all said and done, if I'm going to spend that kind of money (at least for me) I'd rather go for something a little older. I have a while to think about it, and he's going to get the leak fixed whether he sells it or not. He's very anal about anything leaking. He's a real perfectionist when it comes to doing any work whether for others or himself.

[superspec]

IDK, i wouldnt spend 10 on a fox unless it was a cobra or SVO. other than triple black there is nothing special about it. the GT40 parts are easy to get as well as suspension stuff.

[Brownsfan]

10K is a little on the high side. Even though these are getting harder to find on good condition, I would say 8K would be a good price if it truely is a 2 owner 72k mile car

[1320stang]

Murphy, wafrederick is very anti-Ford. If Ford made a car that got 100mpg, ran the 1/4 in 4 seconds flat, had 2000 hp, and they paid you to take one, he wouldn't.

[James E]

I think $10k is very high for that car. Maybe that's decent money for an SVO or one of the special edition cars in perfect condition (the 7-up cars, for instance) but modded like that, I'd be hard-pressed to get $7k for that car around here.

BTW, the cracks are where the fiberglass panels have bottomed out and the paint has cracked when the fiberglass flexed. Only way to fix that is a re-spray of the part. They're more noticeable on dark cars. This is pretty common on GT's like that with the low-hanging rockers and fascias.

Still, with the known owner history and the really nice color combination, I'd make an offer.

[sam03]

Thats crazy high.

[csp]

I paid $10k for a '91 5.0 LX, but that was in '93 and the car had 10k on the odometer. That's way too much even for a GT convert these days.

[Murphy4570]

Originally Posted by NUTTSGT

You posted a minute before I did with your link.


Not all verts were GTs though, there's many LX verts out there.

LOL your right!


And your right, they did make LX vert 5.0s. Dunno why I said that.

Originally Posted by 1320stang

Murphy, wafrederick is very anti-Ford. If Ford made a car that got 100mpg, ran the 1/4 in 4 seconds flat, had 2000 hp, and they paid you to take one, he wouldn't.

I'm beginning to realize that about him. I recall rebuking another inane anti-Ford comment from him in a thread a week or two ago as well, about the 4.6 mod motor of all things.


OP, I agree that 10K is on the high side. Adding aftermarket parts doesn't raise the value of a car. Its worth is in the fact that it is mint with 72K miles, and has black interior. Vert option adds to value a bit too. Auto detracts a bit, even with a shift kit in it. Dunno what mumbo jumbo he was trying to tell you about it either. I still say $8K tops for the thing. If it was a '93 Cobra, that would bring 10K. A regular '91 GT, that they made tons of? Nope.

FWIW, my father bought a '92 LX 5.0 with 58K miles for $5,100 back in 2004.

[Mavawreck]

I see the prices slowly going up on the clean foxes. Ragged-out backroad racers are still cheap, but the clean unmolested cars are bringing decent scratch. If that car was an 8/10 it would fetch 7k or so here in NC.

[NUTTSGT]

Kevin, does he still have the cam card for the one that's installed ?

Do you have a picture of the GT-40 intake ? If you're not sure what it should look like, one of us can confirm whether it a GT-40 or Explorer intake.

GT-40 heads will has 3 vertical bars on the front edge of the head. This identifies them as GT-40 heads.

[5-0stank]

10k is too much. Clean foxes command a premium, but you can find a hell of a car for 10k.

[Kevin54]

Originally Posted by NUTTSGT

Kevin, does he still have the cam card for the one that's installed ?

Do you have a picture of the GT-40 intake ? If you're not sure what it should look like, one of us can confirm whether it a GT-40 or Explorer intake.

GT-40 heads will has 3 vertical bars on the front edge of the head. This identifies them as GT-40 heads.

He said he has the box somewhere for the cam. And for the heads and intake and such, I don't have any reason to doubt him. He had this car for a couple years I guess, and when he does something to any car, he has always done it right. I've know him for 20, maybe 25 years now. But after the wife and I talked it over, we just decided NOT to get it. One reason is like I said above, it's still a FOX body 'stang, although a clean one. And the money you put into one for aftermarket goodies, you can't pass that cost on to the next guy. If I could have gotten it for around $6000 maybe a hair more, I might have done it. But for $10G's I'm gonna pass. Heck, for $10g's I could have a Vette setting in the garage and it will hold it's value better. We just decided to keep our eyes out for something. It'll come along some day when we aren't really looking.

[Mavawreck]

Originally Posted by Kevin54

Heck, for $10g's I could have a Vette setting in the garage and it will hold it's value better. We just decided to keep our eyes out for something. It'll come along some day when we aren't really looking.

Thats one of my issues with Foxes, which I absolutely love - check the sig line. But C5s are hard to argue with, specially since they seem to be getting to the bottom of the depreciation curve.

[James E]

Kev, I agree with your decision. You mentioned a Vette. At the moment, I don't see $10k Vettes appreciating although I do see Fox bodied Mustangs starting to move up in price. There's alot of nostalgia for the Fox bodies AND for the 5.0--especially unmolested ones.

I think at the right price, a Fox Mustang might actually be a good investment, although I agree that that one wasn't at the right price.