Restored 1930's Auto Shop

[mdbeck1]

Originally Posted by Amitygravel

Hello Thomas !
Say now isn't Gus a truck with a bed ?
Hmm. Maybe you should fab up a small trailer to have the boys powder coat and bring
the PDR back on it !

Craig

At the expense of keeping you from getting some new forklift forks.....

How about just loading the PDR in the back of Gus? Then when you get home use one of the lifts as a hoist (place chain or boards between and under the PDR)?


However I do have to agree it would be good to have a set of forklift forks around...

[UN4GTBL]

So what do you do when acronyms work on a couple different meanings?

When I think of PDR I think of Paintless Dent Removal for cars.

[Omphaloskeptic]

Chris, I vote for the Artillian Forks as well, but not necessarily just for the Portable Dirty Room, PDR extraction alone. Looking forward to Thomas's After Retirement Career (A.R.C.) as the Retirement Home Sidewalk Superintendent (R.H.S.S.), he will undoubtedly find the pallet forks indispensable as two of his new duties will be Chief Material Handler (C.M.H.) and Warehouse Storage Manager (W.S.M.). When you consider, as Thomas said, " And did I mention they come already powder coated John Deere green?", it is obviously not a frivolous expenditure, but an acquisition that is almost a preordained mandate!

One last thought for your consideration is that when Thomas has entered the A.R.C. phase of his life, he may not be up to the task of taking his ANVIL for those evening strolls; the JD equipped with those forks will allow him to take the ANVIL for many pleasant journeys about the acreage. It will also give you a break from his aimless wandering about the house and being generally underfoot!

[markviii]

The Artillian Forks seem like a good investment to me (I never ask about $ because it's a foregone conclusion that he'll be doing something anyway). I won't mind having him around more when he goes into A.R.C mode, but somehow I don't see that happening judging by how my retirement has been going these past three years. I'm busier than ever, but doing what I want to do (mostly).

Chris

[Sweet Old Bill]

Miss Chris said: " I'm busier than ever, but doing what I want to do (mostly)."

I have to say: Congratulations!

[charlief1]

Originally Posted by BB767

Bonneville Speed Week and all.

Devoted husband Thomas

If you make to Bonneville please try to meet up with Mike Bernard Thomas. He's one of my friends and his TB board name is SPOOLFOOL2. Mike's a really good guy and a nut to say the least.

[e-tek]

Thanks for the McLarch Engine PORN... Some guys have all the luck!!

[Stratolifter]

BB767, had to join the board and say what a great thread! Also, lived in Champaign for 5 years in college and spent many an evening at the Philo Tav

[BB767]

Originally Posted by mod600

BB767 - I haven't had time to read thru this entire thread, I'm about 30 some pages in. Very cool though! For the wood benches you made back on page 17. Did you put any shelves inside them? If so, how did you go about it? After my shop is finished, I plan to build some benches similar to your design and was just wondering about shelving inside of them. Thanks!
mod600

Hello mod600 and welcome to the thread that won't die! I have not put any shelves in the Stainless Steel Topped Benches, SSTB...............yet. I thought about it when I first built them but decided to wait and see what my needs were as shelves can be added at any point.



Since the bottom is 3/4" plywood and the back is 1/2" not to mention the 4X4 legs across the front, there is sufficient material to attach a shelf support structure of various designs. Those benches are deep enough that I would imagine you would only want a shelf that is half as deep as the bench is...






...as seen here on the Barn Bench, BB. Or alternatively put in a shelf that you could pull out on slides much as you would a drawer. The few items I'm storing under those SSTB presently (a porta power for one) are large and bulky and I need the large space. When you do build your benches be sure to post them on the Journal.

Enjoy the reading you have before you.

Thomas

[BB767]

Originally Posted by UN4GTBL

So what do you do when acronyms work on a couple different meanings?

When I think of PDR I think of Paintless Dent Removal for cars.

That's a good question UN4GTBL and one I really hadn't given any thought. I suppose you'd have to consider the context wouldn't you? You'd need to be PDR, Pretty Darn Resourceful. Oh oh, more Chris test material!!

Thomas

[BB767]

Originally Posted by markviii

The Artillian Forks seem like a good investment to me (I never ask about $ because it's a foregone conclusion that he'll be doing something anyway)....


Chris

Now I ask you, how could you not love a gal like that huh? Not many wives would consider pallet forks a good investment but then, that's my Chris.

BTW Chris, I did order the Artillian Fork's today, I wouldn't want to disappoint my sweetie!

Caring Thomas

[BB767]

Originally Posted by Omphaloskeptic

Chris, I vote for the Artillian Forks as well, but not necessarily just for the Portable Dirty Room, PDR extraction alone. Looking forward to Thomas's After Retirement Career (A.R.C.) as the Retirement Home Sidewalk Superintendent (R.H.S.S.), he will undoubtedly find the pallet forks indispensable as two of his new duties will be Chief Material Handler (C.M.H.) and Warehouse Storage Manager (W.S.M.). When you consider, as Thomas said, " And did I mention they come already powder coated John Deere green?", it is obviously not a frivolous expenditure, but an acquisition that is almost a preordained mandate!

One last thought for your consideration is that when Thomas has entered the A.R.C. phase of his life, he may not be up to the task of taking his ANVIL for those evening strolls; the JD equipped with those forks will allow him to take the ANVIL for many pleasant journeys about the acreage. It will also give you a break from his aimless wandering about the house and being generally underfoot!

What he said.......I do it for you Chris.

Thomas

[BB767]

It's been a long day but I wanted to get some of the construction details of the PDR posted.



Grade 5 nuts for mounting the vise were TIG welded (Tungsten Inert Gas) to the back side of the steel plate. You can see where the top nut falls inside the outline of the leg...



...so that worked out pretty well.



1/4" steel plates were shaped to fit the bottom of the legs and then drilled and tapped for the caster mounting bolts.



After the 1/4" plates were attached to the bottom of the legs they were shaped to fit the profile of the leg.



These are the Blickle swivel casters selected for the PDR, attached with grade 8 bolts. Two of the casters will have positive stop-lock brakes. They are polyurethane so they won't flat spot like rubber ones would if they sit in one spot for a long period. Rated at 500 lbs (226 kg) each with sealed ball bearings to keep grit out. They have solid, machined aluminum alloy hubs and are beautiful, quality pieces that should make the PDR just glide across the shop floor and last for decades. Not too happy with the green color but that's the only way I could get polyurethane, so form follows function, just live with it. I bet once everything is powder coated you'll hardly see the green anyway..........at least that's the theory.



With the caster plates attached to the legs, everything was laid out...



... in proper position.



A shallow shelf that was made from large 1/4" angle was installed all along the bottom of the top plate and these small "L" brackets were fabricated to strengthen that angle...



... but more important they aid in holding the angle piece in correct and square position during welding. Note the small square in the middle to the right.



To the front of that large angle a small 1" lip was attached...





...all around it to provide a lip to hang clamps on. I'll get some better pictures of it and post them later.



There is more but it's late and I have a bed calling to me so check back for additional material. Thanks everyone.

Thomas

[Scuderia-F1]

That PDR will be so awesome when it´s done at the powder coater, can't wait for the finished result!

[charlief1]

I get the idea of welding the nuts on the bottom but I'm wondering why you didn't thread the table instead of just drilling through it.

[BB767]

Originally Posted by charlief1

I get the idea of welding the nuts on the bottom but I'm wondering why you didn't thread the table instead of just drilling through it.

Good question charlief1. My experience is that it was much more expedient to simply weld the nut to the bottom of the plate rather than to tap a 1/2" thread into 3/4" thick plate. If those nuts could have been seen I doubt that I would have done it that way, probably would have tapped the plate. Considering the possibility of breaking a tap in the plate and the associated problems that would create it was best to just weld a nut below and be done with it. Had there been an interference problem with the leg, tapping the plate was my backup plan. As you know there are multiply ways to achieve the same result and at times it just comes down to personal choice and past experience. I've done it this way before with no real downside. Thanks.

Thomas

[BB767]

Originally Posted by charlief1

If you make to Bonneville please try to meet up with Mike Bernard Thomas. He's one of my friends and his TB board name is SPOOLFOOL2. Mike's a really good guy and a nut to say the least.

BTW, I will be at Bonneville so any idea of where I can find Mike Bernard Thomas? What will he be running out there and any clue as to his car number or maybe PM me with a phone contact number?

Thomas

[Scuderia-F1]

Originally Posted by BB767

Good question charlief1. My experience is that it was much more expedient to simply weld the nut to the bottom of the plate rather than to tap a 1/2" thread into 3/4" thick plate. If those nuts could have been seen I doubt that I would have done it that way, probably would have tapped the plate. Considering the possibility of breaking a tap in the plate and the associated problems that would create it was best to just weld a nut below and be done with it. Had there been an interference problem with the leg, tapping the plate was my backup plan. As you know there are multiply ways to achieve the same result and at times it just comes down to personal choice and past experience. I've done it this way before with no real downside. Thanks.

Thomas

But Thomas, shouldn´t the nuts have been clocked!?

[BB767]

Originally Posted by Stratolifter

BB767, had to join the board and say what a great thread! Also, lived in Champaign for 5 years in college and spent many an evening at the Philo Tav

Thank you Stratolifter. Then you have personal knowledge of how nice this area is. Did you happen to attend the Institute of Aviation while at the U of I?

Feel free to pass the thread on to others you feel might find it interesting/amusing or both.

Thomas

[BB767]

Originally Posted by Scuderia-F1

But Thomas, shouldn´t the nuts have been clocked!?

D'oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's one for you Scuderia-F1!

Live by the sword, die by the sword I guess.

Thomas