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If you pull up the web-site Alloy Artifacts look under the Bonney section under sockets & ratchets then you can read the history of your ratchet in question.:)
 
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It looks similar to the za707 on page 6 of the bonney page on alloy artifacts.

I have the za707 and it a pretty nice ratchet but mine is a little worn and could use a rebuild kit, it keeps changing direction on its own. It is fine tooth and is really smooth. It would be one of my favorites if it worked properly.
 
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I can't verify that I had that model number but the first socket set I bought was a Bonney and the ratchet was very fine toothed. Over the years I have wondered what ever happened to that ratchet. I bought in in about 1962. Wish I would have kept it around for a wall hanger if nothing else.
 
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I've got the T707 little brother to that ratchet. Biggest issue with them is that back is press fit so there's no way to open the ratchet to replace/clean anything. If it's broke, it's broke for good.
 
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When some of you are saying fine toothed am I missing something those are old bonney ratchets I thought that fine tooth features did not exist that far back. If they did exist maybe someone could tell me who was the first company to use that on their ratchets.
 
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Pattent applied for in 1957. I think its around 80 tooth.

http://www.google.com/patents/US2957377

The za707 1/2 inch and the similar 3/8 that I have both have that top side press fit but the back side has a snap ring where you can disassemble it. Thye must have forseen this as a problem and made the change on the later designs. That cover works like a soft plug so I think you could carefully remove it and straighten the cover and set it again with a punch. This would be a last ditch effort to save it though, I wouldn't take it apart just to see whats inside.
 
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Hank McMauser said:
looks pretty similar to this3/8" .It's the first and only one I've found in the wild
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I've got two ratchets nearly identical to that. One is marked Mopar and the other Dayton. My research showed they were rebranded Bonney. The Mopar has a different shaped handle but the head is the same. The Dayton appears identical (these are 1/2" drive....I also have a 3/8 Mopar that's the same)
 
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Thanks all for responding. The patent date really helped out. I did count the teeth and it indeed is a 90 tooth, and one of the smoothest ratchets I've ever handled.

It is confusing as to why they sealed the head, when I first received mine, it would lock up occasionally(like the craftsman thin profile) if spun quickly but a soak in WD-40 solved the problem.
 
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Whats interesting is if you look at that patent the first reference it has is a patent filed in 1907 for a 60 tooth ratchet.

I would guess the recent popularity of fine tooth ratchets comes from improvements in materials and manufacturing to make the small teeth cheaper to make.
 
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