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Snap-On Credit Debate (school me on why not)

ACepero

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Why do you need to finance a car? Dumb. Only goes down in value. And who needs to buy a house? Rent until you get your stuff together.

Rent until what? Until you save $300k to buy a house in cash? That's not realistic. When you rent, you're paying off someone else's mortgage. Why not pay off your own mortgage and build equity.

Listen, I'm a huge fan of paying for things in cash. 99% of the things I pay for, I pay for in cash. However, there are just some things that can't be reasonably paid for in cash.
 
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NineFingerFury

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Rent until what? Until you save $300k to buy a house in cash? That's not realistic. When you rent, you're paying off someone else's mortgage. Why not pay off your own mortgage and build equity.

Listen, I'm a huge fan of paying for things in cash. 99% of the things I pay for, I pay for in cash. However, there are just some things that can't be reasonably paid for in cash.

See my above post.
 

j-easy

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you don't need to pay any interest charges to build credit

you can pay your credit card balances in full each month and have 750+ scores
 

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There is Nothing Wrong with Credit.. but per your own admission, You have found yourself in a "Rebuilding" stage and without knowing your Personal finances, its impossible to make the call on this scenario. If i was gonna read in between the lines, I would suggest you pass on the Box for Now. If you are running your finances so tightly that you had to cut out Fast food to swing the weekly payment, That tells me that things must be fairly Tight and while your making some OT right now.. That really shouldnt be used for a overall budgeting IMO. There are better ways to build credit than lock yourself into a 22% 3 year Note, The Best medicine for Credit Building is On time Payments, Low Utilization and Time...

Good Luck with whatever Route you choose...
 

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FWIW I bought my house at 26 and had a credit score of 788 solely by paying a student loan for a couple years (under $100/month 2.75%) and a credit card I used but carried no balance on.

Credit is way over rated. Last year we bought a car with cash, I'm 31 and we have the liquid cash to pay off our mortgage twice over. The only thing it's useful for is getting a job it seems these days.
 

tehfade

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Not worth it, man. First of all, it isn't a good deal, 22% interest is a lot, and you could do better. You might need to rebuild your credit, but there have got to be better ways than knowingly taking a bad deal.

Second, maybe I'll get flamed for this, but a toolbox is about the last thing I would take on debt for. It holds your tools, that's all it's good for. It doesn't make you better at your job, so who cares if it's expensive or not? I'd go with the Harbor Freight one.
 

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Save the $165 payment you would be making for 12 mos. Then you will have $2000 cash to pay for a used box. That will save you close to $4000 you would be spending for the new box & interest.
 

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A HF box is 400 out the door. So what if its worth nothing in 10 yrs? I got a couple crappy boxes but replacing them really wont make me any more money even at HF rates,,, ha.. am now in the process of a strip search, shaving a bunch of stuff out of the carts that are beyond duplication, just excess to sift thru.
 
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SAR

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I went with snap on credit on a used KRL722 w/ a ss top for ~$2600. My interest rate is only 16% though.
 

Heavy Metal Doctor

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Lost of good advise here, but my feeling is:
Advise is fine, but make your own decision. You'll be kicking yourself later if things don't turn out the way you'd like after doing things based on others opinions, instead of what YOU want.

Personally, I've done it a good number of times and getting good deals has meant I only lost a little in the interest charges.
 
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BOONEY7750

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Thanks for everything everybody. I backed out. I am not saying a new quality box is off the table, but I will continue to chip away money for "toys" through overtime and supplemental income and use financing for items for everyday and full family use. My kid can't sleep in a tool box. I will wait till I have cash in hand if at the time I still want the box I will then consider it.

To follow up with some of the other post. If I am going to buy I will stay with the 1022, or a good price on a 7022. I am maxed out on five 26" home owner chest that are give or take 6,500 square inches. A 722 does not giving me a lot of future room. I will wait until I can Pay cash. I may consider paying 90% cash and finance 10%. Of course if there is a great used one I have no problem going that route and financing at a lower rate other necessities of life to build credit. Also, I think some people are out of touch with the rates on credit interest. I am not finding anywhere near 17% I have a good steady job, that pays decent, but old mistakes are still hurting me. I called my credit card company and was able to up my credit line and get 0% interest until august 2013 from my current credit card company for paying early every month. I only use that card for household needs, but I now have a smaller percentage of my available credit used monthly which I learned, among other things from this post, can help for future borrowing. Sincere Thank You to everyone on this forum. Thank You for calling me out and opening my eyes. You guys helped me exert a new level of fiscal responsibility.
 

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Wisdom comes hard and expensive most of the time...

We, who advised you, "been there, done that...etc"

Keep up with plan and the money and credit will take care of themselves...
 

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Once you have good credit take advantage of it. I made $2400 last year just opening up credit cards, pre-paying my bills like insurance, electricity, cell etc and paying them off before the end of the month. Free money for about 10 minutes worth of filling out online applications.
 

imagine44

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I am supposed to take delivery of a black 1022 tomorrow. I have a little savings, and pay all my bills on time monthly. My job is steady. I screwed up my credit five or six years ago and I am working on fixing it. The last four and half years (since I got my current job) I have been perfect and I am paying off old stuff too. Due to me working a ton of overtime lately I haven’t gotten a look at the final contract everything has been over the phone, but I know I am putting $750 down and paying about $37 a week for 3 years. I haven’t seen the discount, trade in, and interest break down yet. I know I will be paying more than I could for a used box ($3,500-$4,500 where I live), and I know some of the money will go to interest. I currently am rebuilding my credit by using a credit card and paying it on time monthly. The rate is 22% which is in line with Snap-On. I need to build credit and would rather do it by eating interest on something I like and will keep for an extended period of time. In order to make room in my budget I cut my fast food consumption down by half. I am able to pay the $37 a week without hindering my family's weekly budget. I know there are better things to spend money on.
My question is why do people freak out about taking on the credit? The payment is manageable to me, and I (think) I am ok with it. I have earned enough OT money to make payments for nearly a year if needed. All the Snap-On credit post I read have people getting over their heads and 80% of post bashing the credit as the devil. Help me understand it please.

Ok. To build credit, you need to make sure that any debt and payments you take on is reported to all 3 credit agencies on a monthly basis. Otherwise, your just paying a debt. Also, don't carry a high balance. If you have 10,000 of credit on a card, carry no more than 1/3 of that on it if you must. Don't keep a ton of cards, and make absolutely sure you pay the card on time every time.

I don't think you are helping yourself with buying your box on credit. Some purchases are nearly impossible without credit, but this isn't one of them.

Edit: Just read your last post. Good decision.
 
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dmeadow

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Thanks for everything everybody. I backed out. I am not saying a new quality box is off the table, but I will continue to chip away money for "toys" through overtime and supplemental income and use financing for items for everyday and full family use. My kid can't sleep in a tool box. I will wait till I have cash in hand if at the time I still want the box I will then consider it.

To follow up with some of the other post. If I am going to buy I will stay with the 1022, or a good price on a 7022. I am maxed out on five 26" home owner chest that are give or take 6,500 square inches. A 722 does not giving me a lot of future room. I will wait until I can Pay cash. I may consider paying 90% cash and finance 10%. Of course if there is a great used one I have no problem going that route and financing at a lower rate other necessities of life to build credit. Also, I think some people are out of touch with the rates on credit interest. I am not finding anywhere near 17% I have a good steady job, that pays decent, but old mistakes are still hurting me. I called my credit card company and was able to up my credit line and get 0% interest until august 2013 from my current credit card company for paying early every month. I only use that card for household needs, but I now have a smaller percentage of my available credit used monthly which I learned, among other things from this post, can help for future borrowing. Sincere Thank You to everyone on this forum. Thank You for calling me out and opening my eyes. You guys helped me exert a new level of fiscal responsibility.

I didn't read all the responses, but great decision! Very mature. Perhaps someone else put you on to Dave Ramsey. If not, I encourage you to check him out. Credit IS the devil. Rationalizing borrowing money for things you don't really NEED is a sure way to a destitute retirement (and/or having to work until you die), not being able to educate your children, and going homeless the first time you are out of work for more than 30 days.
 
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