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Simply amazing and inspiring! I hope sir, that I will be so talented and motivated if I ever make it to retirement. Congratulations to you and your lovely wife! Carry on the great work, and I will be watching for updates. Thank you for the journey.
 
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Well this kinda *****. I got the fence done, a new A/C- heat pump in the house, and a whole bunch of other stuff out of the way. The idea was to get back to work on the barn. Even the weather was shaping up.
Now for the problem. I have to go into the hospital for surgery next week. Should not be a big deal if all goes as doc says most do. However if there is a problem, and he can't do it lap style, than a big slice and a lot longer recovery time. I had the option of having it done last December, but doc said he wasn't sure I needed it right off and it wasn't bothering me much at all, so didn't do it. In hindsight, should have. If it goes well I will be back at the barn in about three weeks. If not maybe six weeks or more. Either way, summer is coming and we will get more done.

Thanks to all, for your kind replies.
I will update as soon as we know more.
 

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That's nothing I just got back from a 1850 mile dual sport ride, to Copper Canyon in Mexico, the leader was Burt Gunn and he is 80, second was Mike Gorman he is 70, this was some tough riding at least 6-8 hrs per day, and about 10-17 mph average offroad.
 

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Good luck and a speedy recovery! Is there any way you could post up a quick tutorial on making the split rails for your fence project? I can't quite grasp how you would split such a long log without heavy machinery but it has been done for hundreds of years so I'm sure there's a trick to it.
 

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Awesome projects. Love the barn. I may have missed it in there somewhere, but what are the dimensions of the barn? Guessing 8' spacing on the posts to be 24x32?

Best wishes and thanks for sharing!
 

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AMAZING!!! Just found you post(s) here on GJ and went through all 14 pages!
You have built one great barn that will last forever!!!
 
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Awesome projects. Love the barn. I may have missed it in there somewhere, but what are the dimensions of the barn? Guessing 8' spacing on the posts to be 24x32?

Best wishes and thanks for sharing!

You are right on with your measurements.
Would have liked to have used 10 foot spacing which would have made it, 30x40, but the land wouldn't accept it. Would have required a move of the septic sytem and a whole lot more fill. Plus, than the barn would have been taller also and much larger than the house. This was as big as I dared take on by myself.
Thanks for the kind words.
 
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Good luck and a speedy recovery! Is there any way you could post up a quick tutorial on making the split rails for your fence project? I can't quite grasp how you would split such a long log without heavy machinery but it has been done for hundreds of years so I'm sure there's a trick to it.

This was my first time at splitting rails and doing that kind of a fence. So definitely no expert on the subject. Like you, I didn't think that, without mechanical help, I could do it either. However I will be happy to pass along what I learned and how it worked for me.
A lot of how it will go, will depend on, the type and size of wood that you will be using. In our case I used local grown red cedar. It has a fairly straight grain and separates relatively easy. When we lived in New England we heated with wood for a number of years. I would buy logs in tree length and cut them to stove length, than split them. I had access to all kinds of splitters, I sold them where I worked and had friends that had splitters. Various types of hydraulic and mechanical. Including one I sold that was called the Stickler. Those would split almost anything. But than the length was only up to four feet. Doing rails of that length, out of hardwoods could be more of a problem.
My friend Ken told me he had all the necessary tools and would show me how to do it. Sounded like a big project, but he said not to worry, you don't have to do it all at once.
So here is what I can pass along.
What you basically need is two to three splitting wedges. Ken had two five lb steel wedges plus a four inch wide plastic tree cutting wedge. Also a homemade wooden two foot long wedge. A good sharp axe. Two long, six to eight foot, pry bars. Not a must, but they help at times. A small sledge for starting the splitters and a big sledge for driving them in. The weight of the two hammers depends on what you feel comfortable to swing.
I could have borrowed his tools to use at my place to do the splitting that would be needed to finish the job, but we live about forty miles apart and if he needed them he wouldn't have them. That usually doesn't work. I already had some of the stuff and decided to just purchase the rest. My local ACE had what I needed. They had a splitter wedge that is shaped like a small pyramid. Comes to a point and is about eight inches long. roughly five lbs also. I took one of those and a regular two inch wide five lb steel wedge. I have a small sledge but can't find my large one, so I got a eight lb and a handle bumper for it. I also have two real good six foot pry bars, and a real sharp double headed axe.
Chainsaw. I had one but it has been in storage so long that the repairs would have cost me more than it was worth. The saw owed me nothing, I cut a lot of wood with that little guy. So had to buy a new one. Not going to use it for a lot more than this project so decided not to spend big bucks. Got a 38cc 16 inch from a big box for less than $140.00. Plus it takes the same chain that the old one did. Plenty enough for this job and what tree trimming I might do. You could do the split rails without a chainsaw, but it is a lot easier, with one. For a short fence, 30 to 40 feet, if you didn't have one, the purchase might not be worth it. Ours is around 175 feet in a straight line measurement. My cost on everything to get me up to speed was under $200.00 bucks.

So how do you do it. Went to Kens place where he had some already done as well as more logs that needed to be split. It is actually very simple. Select the log that you want to split and take a good look at the grain. Check the wide end of the log and see if there are already crack marks showing you where it would like to split. Remember, we are working with cedar, which shows the grain well. You are also looking to see if that split will carry the full length of the log. You don't want it to split off half way down the log. If there are a lot of knots, from limbs, check to see if the split will continue around them. If possible start with logs that show good splits before taking on the more complicated knarly ones. Start on the wide end, not a must, but worked better for me.

At Kens I started with a regular wedge abut two inches from the end. Tap it in with the small hammer, than hit it hard with the heavy one. Once a crack opens up you can add the next wedge a foot or so further down the log. Drive one of the wider wedges in next to the first one, to hold the split open and remove the first wedge. Take that one and move further down the log and extending the split. Sound too simple? Well it is hard work swinging the hammer, but the procedure is really quite that simple. Once you have done a few you will see what I mean about reading the grain and having the split go around knots etc. Some will come out better than others, some may make firewood. If you are building a split rail fence though, and you want it to look authentic, they will probably all work. Lin will say, Oh that one has character.

I am adding five photos that I hope will show the procedure a little better.

The first photo is from Ken's place. It shows the progress as we moved the wedges down the log. The first wedge is a homemade wooden wedge to hold the splt open.

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This picture is of one I needed to do at my place. Some of the ones we brought over were still quite large. This one, I could get two rails out of by splitting it again.

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The wedge I am using in this photo is the one with the point. I am happy I got this one, it was real good to use as the first wedge. It would start in the log, a lot easier, with no crack, than the others would.

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Just keep moving down the log.

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Ain't that pretty!!

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On a few of the last logs that were really full of knots and twists, I helped the splits to stay where I needed them to, by using the chainsaw to show the log where it should run. Just in the areas where the split might have ran out of the log. Also needed the chainsaw to trim off some of the bigger limb areas on some of the larger logs. We found that it worked best if we used eight to sixteen inch diameter logs, with twelve's being ideal.

Hope this was of some help, to actually show what you need and how I did it.
 

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Love everything you guys have done. the barn is a beauty and that fence is going to draw you in when driving down the road. I don't no if your string line is working as i think your fence isn't straight but maybe it's just the camera's angle:lol::D
 
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Love everything you guys have done. the barn is a beauty and that fence is going to draw you in when driving down the road. I don't no if your string line is working as i think your fence isn't straight but maybe it's just the camera's angle:lol::D

I told Lin not to leave that string out overnight, now what am I going to do with a crooked string.
 

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Hi Nasman, been watching from afar since you started your epic build. Like all others, I've been amazed at your stamina. :bow: Here's praying that you are soon over your operation and will be fit enough to carry your dream onto total fruition. Speaking of which, what do you intend to use the barn for once it's completed?
 
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Hi Nasman, been watching from afar since you started your epic build. Like all others, I've been amazed at your stamina. :bow: Here's praying that you are soon over your operation and will be fit enough to carry your dream onto total fruition. Speaking of which, what do you intend to use the barn for once it's completed?

The original intent was to house a couple of cars and my Harley. Maybe build one last street rod. Still hope to do it.
 

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Good luck and prayers on your upcoming surgery. I hope the can do it laparoscopically. Either way, give the body time to heal !

Fence is awesome and thanks for the lesson on splitting.
 

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Well. I have spent the last couple of hours reading this post. Lin and Dave you are something to behold. Outstanding work. As a couple there is nothing more pleasurable than to be together on a massive project that you two have done. I admire your workmanship. Your posts bring a tear to my eye. Good luck. God Speed.:D
 

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I LOVE the craftsmanship and ingenuity you have. I'm amazed by both of you and your stamina. LOVE this thread, a real inspiration to me. Hope you recover from surgery better than before and able to keep working on your dreams. My selfish part wants to see the build finished but, I do hope for a quick and full recovery, need more like you two in this world.
 
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Good luck and prayers on your upcoming surgery. I hope the can do it laparoscopically. Either way, give the body time to heal !

Fence is awesome and thanks for the lesson on splitting.

X2...I had mine done with the DaVinci robot at Mayo in PHX and took my wife, (5/8ths) to dinner the next evening. Been two years now and back to my old self (mostly)
 
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X2...I had mine done with the DaVinci robot at Mayo in PHX and took my wife, (5/8ths) to dinner the next evening. Been two years now and back to my old self (mostly)

I may be still a little out of it from the stuff they put me out with, so I had Lin read it also. She didn't get it either.

What did you mean where it says (5/8ths) ??

Been to Pagosa Springs twice. Really liked that place. Looked at land to build there, was very serious about one piece of acrerage that we looked at. But just couldn't get over how long it stays cold.

Surgery went well. They did do it lap style, I now have four new port holes in the stomach area. They got me up, as soon as I woke up, and was out of the hospital in less than half hour later. Surgery at 11:45, home by 4:15, including Lin having to drive 45 miles. Is that crazy. Amazing progress in medicine. Some pain and a little uncomfortable.
Now for the bad news. It seems that at least one of the stones found it's way into an area it is not supposed to be, before the operation. So have to go to the big city, 90 miles away for another operation to have removal. Only have a surgeon in that area that can do it. He will go down thru the throat and fish it out. This really sounds like fun. No option though, has to be done.
Will let you all know how this turns out. On top of that, we have tornado warnings coming in with as much as five inches of rain.

Thanks to all for the well wishes.
 
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Just read through the entire thread and WOW! Im very amazed at the craftsmanship and attention to detail. I pray your recovery is full and speedy. I bet you are itching to go outside and work some more.
 

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I was introduced to this forum just this week and am having a blast reading through the garage build threads. I must say, though, that your barn and one other thread (so far!) really stand out as special in a different way.

Rather than get into a ton of personal stuff in my first post, I'll just say that you're reminding me quite a bit of my dad, who's 68, and even my grandfather, who's 95 now and still going strong. This really is amazing work and I'm thankful to be able to see your progress and hope it continues to go at least as well as it has so far.

Okay.. one bit of personal stuff, regarding eyes. My mother never needed glasses so she didn't get her eyes checked regularly. Then, around 15 years ago, she was diagnosed with macular degeneration. It was basically too late to do anything about her left eye. Every year now she goes in for exams and sometimes gets a shot directly into her eyeball to try to help the other eye from getting worse. It's possible she may lose her driver's license this year but we're all hoping for the best. That's just my friendly advice to everyone out there to take care of your eyes. :) I've had glasses or contacts for nearly 30 years and am undoubtedly legally blind without correction, but so far no signs of degeneration.

Thank you and your wife again for putting a smile on my face as I watch your barn go up.
 

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I may be still a little out of it from the stuff they put me out with, so I had Lin read it also. She didn't get it either.

What did you mean where it says (5/8ths) ??

Been to Pagosa Springs twice. Really liked that place. Looked at land to build there, was very serious about one piece of acrerage that we looked at. But just couldn't get over how long it stays cold.

Surgery went well. They did do it lap style, I now have four new port holes in the stomach area. They got me up, as soon as I woke up, and was out of the hospital in less than half hour later. Surgery at 11:45, home by 4:15, including Lin having to drive 45 miles. Is that crazy. Amazing progress in medicine. Some pain and a little uncomfortable.
Now for the bad news. It seems that at least one of the stones found it's way into an area it is not supposed to be, before the operation. So have to go to the big city, 90 miles away for another operation to have removal. Only have a surgeon in that area that can do it. He will go down thru the throat and fish it out. This really sounds like fun. No option though, has to be done.
Will let you all know how this turns out. On top of that, we have tornado warnings coming in with as much as five inches of rain.

Thanks to all for the well wishes.

5/8ths is my better half...sorry for the confusion...glad you surgery went well as did mine. Mine was prostrate however, but all is well now. Keep on building.
 
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5/8ths is my better half...sorry for the confusion...glad you surgery went well as did mine. Mine was prostrate however, but all is well now. Keep on building.

Can't believe I didn't get that. Must have been on more dope than I knew about.
Second procedure seems to have done well. Had to spend the night in Lil Rock because the procedure was scheduled for early next day. We would have to be at hospital for 5:30 AM, it didn't make sense to drive home and turn around and go back. They put us up at the Guest House, which is part of the hospital. Sort of like a Ronald Mac. They did everything for us. Provided all transportation etc. Great people. Hard part was they put me on my stomach to do it. I was blown away by that. I have four incisions in my stomach and they are going down my throat, and I have to lay on my stomach. They make you as comfortable as they can and once you go out it doesn't make any difference. All went well and now I have a real nice picture of my bile duct and a stone.
Funny part of this is the doctor has a log home not far from us and wants to built a barn. He has gone to our web site and loves it. He told Lin he is coming for a visit.
Our friend Ken, that helped us and supplied all the cedar for the fence, was real close to the tornado that went thru while we were at the hospital. Some of his neighbors have damage. His church members have been working for the last two days to help others in need. Wish I felt good enough to join them.
That storm on Wed. night produced two F-2 and one F-1 tornadoes within 25 miles of us. Very scary.
Still tender but getting better.
Thanks to all that have posted.
 

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glad to hear all is going good for you
am always amazed to see what you two manage to get done!!!

heal well, don't push too hard to fast and may you continue to get better
 

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"Hard part was they put me on my stomach to do it. I was blown away by that."



Well sir, the reason they do it that way is it makes it much easier to get to your wallet! lol
Take care, drink plenty of cranberry juice, and don't let the wife spoil you (too much)!
 
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"Hard part was they put me on my stomach to do it. I was blown away by that."



Well sir, the reason they do it that way is it makes it much easier to get to your wallet! lol
Take care, drink plenty of cranberry juice, and don't let the wife spoil you (too much)!

Best laugh of the week. Thanks we needed it.

For all of you that have always had a love of 49 Merc coupes, you got to check out this link a friend of ours sent us. Lin had a 50 Merc that I found for her, before we were married. I gave the farmer 75 bucks for it. It was that good. The link will take you to a 6 minute or so video, very well done.

http://varietyvideosllc.com/about2.html

It doesn't have anything to do with this thread, but you will enjoy it.
 

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"Hard part was they put me on my stomach to do it. I was blown away by that."



Well sir, the reason they do it that way is it makes it much easier to get to your wallet! lol
Take care, drink plenty of cranberry juice, and don't let the wife spoil you (too much)!

I literally laughed out loud.
 

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just finished looking over your thread one more time and I must say outstanding! your abilities are to die for. if you weren't you should have been an engineer.
 
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Quick update on how we are doing. Operation and proceedure afterward both went very well. Follow up with doctor on this last Tues. and he has given green light to get back to the barn. Both doctors were shown pictures of the barn and loved it. Both are supposed to stop in and take a look. They both as it turns out have lake homes near us.
Again we would like to thank all that were thinking of us and posted their support.
 
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