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What's your hot water tank set to?

Blk88GT

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I moved into a new place last fall and the water temp here is ridiculous. I turned it down from 160F to 105F and it still seems too hot.

Should I keep going down until I don't burn myself on full hot? Or is there a reason to keep it that warm? I'm sure it didn't do my electricity bill any favors. For all I know, they jacked it up when they moved out.....

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darkk

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Mine is at 180 deg. When I want hot water, I want hot water. At my house no one sticks their hand under the faucet without turning the cold on for a few...
 

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I'm not sure but I should check it. It'll probably kill it if I make a temperature change. I know the one at the FD is set on scald.
 

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We have a tankless Rinnai and it's set at 120*. I recall the installer saying that if we want it to be "really hot" we could adjust it to 125*. It seems fine a is.
 

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120 is recommended for dishwasher. Do you have kids? 150 will burn you in about 2 seconds. A water heater uses about 15-20% of your electric bill, I suggest try 120-125 max, install a timer on the water heater and let it go off at night while you sleep and save a few bucks...
 

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+1 on the kids - this is pretty critical. I had mine set much lower than it is now when my kiddos were younger.

Now, they're 15 and 12 and use hot water like oxygen. Therefore, I have the temp turned up pretty high.

You want to ensure the water is hot enough to properly wash your dishes and clothes. Other than that - it's just a setting that makes you and your wallet comfy.

Depending on the location of your WH, turning up/down may not make much of a difference in your cost.

One quick note - though it's a bit of a thread hijack....I just replaced both of my WHs last year after one of them sprung a leak. they are in my attic space and dumping water down on the living space below is a frightening thought.

After significant research, I learned that the life of a WH can be extended SIGNIFICANTLY by managing the sacrificial rod and ensuring it is replaced every 5 years or so.

Lots of google info on this....just thought I'd mention it while you poking around your WH.
 

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After significant research, I learned that the life of a WH can be extended SIGNIFICANTLY by managing the sacrificial rod and ensuring it is replaced every 5 years or so.
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..and for maintenance you are suppose to drain the tank so that buildup on the bottom does not overcome the inside space and/or rise above and block off the drain spigot. What I do is in the winter I attach the garden hose to the drain and go out and wash my car with hot water. I see all the little whiteballs of "??" come out while I'm washing. Kill two birds with one stone.
 
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Blk88GT

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Thanks guys. I'm going to verify the setting with a thermometer and see what I'm actually getting at the tap. It still seems too high.
 

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Thanks guys. I'm going to verify the setting with a thermometer and see what I'm actually getting at the tap. It still seems too high.

This. May be the thermostat probes have scale on them that keeps it from getting an accurate reading.

Have you checked your T&P valve this year?
 

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I've also rigged mine with a digital timer, and a harbor freight Max/Min recording digital thermometer with the probe against the tank wall in the upper element hole. I reset the Max/Min every few weeks. My WH hasn't run since 2:30PM, and the water inside is still 127°F at 10PM. It's an interesting experiment.

It runs as follows:
5:45AM-6:15AM 7 days a week
1:00PM-2:30PM Mon-Fri
12:00PM-3:00PM Sat-Sun <-- We run more laundry on the weekends.
 

the_saint

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I've also rigged mine with a digital timer, and a harbor freight Max/Min recording digital thermometer with the probe against the tank wall in the upper element hole. I reset the Max/Min every few weeks. My WH hasn't run since 2:30PM, and the water inside is still 127°F at 10PM. It's an interesting experiment.

It runs as follows:
5:45AM-6:15AM 7 days a week
1:00PM-2:30PM Mon-Fri
12:00PM-3:00PM Sat-Sun <-- We run more laundry on the weekends.

Interesting. Any idea on what the difference in the electrical bill amounted to?
 
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Charles (in GA)

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120 is recommended for dishwasher. Do you have kids? 150 will burn you in about 2 seconds. A water heater uses about 15-20% of your electric bill, I suggest try 120-125 max, install a timer on the water heater and let it go off at night while you sleep and save a few bucks...

This is pretty much spot on. It leaves the water hot enough that it can be blended with the cold water to have a comfortable shower yet will last a reasonably long time before it empties. Turn it too low, and you will be taking a shower in all hot water and not using the cold at all. You will run out quicker. You want it reasonably hot for the clothes washer, and the dishwasher, though I also have the dishwasher set on sanitize wash and sanitize rinse, so it goes to 180° with the heating element in the dishwasher (Kitchen Aid)

The one in the shop, since it is only 2½ gal, I have it set as hot as possible and not have the overtemp switch trip it off or the TP relief blow off. This gives me a reasonable amount of warm water for washing hands, probably 5 or 6 gals of total water run before it runs out totally.

Charles
 
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Blk88GT

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Well the joke was on me. Turns out my tank has TWO thermostats. The bottom one was pegged at 150 and the top one is the one I've been adjusting without knowing there was a second. My water temp was 140 degrees as measured with my infared gun into a glass of water.

I've knocked them both down to ~110 and will go from there.

What is the best practice for the top vs bottom delta?
 

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It's dangerous to turn them too low. If you want extra low temperatures turn it up to a safe level and install a mixing valve.
 

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When we moved into our home I had to adjust the temperature up. The previous owners had lowered it because the house was empty. My heater also has 2 thermostats to adjust, I set it to 120 degrees at the tap.

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I don't have a specific temp reading for mine, but it is set hot enough for both my wife and I to take a shower in two separate showers at the same time in the morning before leaving for work. Otherwise the only time hot water is used is in the evening for laundry or dishes.
 

thetruck454

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I had issues with my wife using up all the hot water in the megastore (30gal) I played around with the temp and found tha 140 was hot enough so she could take a long scalding hot shower. Being new to mairage I tried to convince her to not shower so hot/long, I soon realized the extra $$ spent was much easier to live with:bounce:
 

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Mines set somewhere in the middle.
 

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It's dangerous to turn them too low. If you want extra low temperatures turn it up to a safe level and install a mixing valve.

This is the truth. Too low and you can end up with legionnaires disease. A mixing valve is certainly the way to go if it's too hot.
 

Diverbill45

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I just installed a new water heater about 5 weeks ago and left it at the factory setting.

About a week ago I started to do a couple of tests, learned from a few plumber friends I know, and sure enough they were right on. (One was even mentioned in the installation instruction manual that Whirlpool provided with the heater.)

Turn on the hot water and as it starts to heat up and before it gets too hot to hold your hands under, cup both hands together and fill them with hot water. Then smell the water in your hands. If it has an oder, then it isn't hot enough. This is what is called "stinky water" and is caused by the temperature not being set high enough. There is bacteria and other little bad critters that can still live in the water, if the temp. is to low. Most factory setting are not set high enough.

Tried it the other day and sure enough I could smell a bad oder. Changed the heat setting and waited a couple of days and the oder was gone.

I did this test on the water heater I replaceed, when I moved into this house and there was no oder. Checked out the temp. setting and it had been set higher by the last owner.

The next test is to go to the area that is furtherest from the water heater and turn on just the hot water. Now check the amount of time it takes for the hot water to reach that area before it gets to the full set temperature. Now take that time and multiply it by the number of times you use that outlet each day and you'll get a rough figure as to the amount of gallons of water that is wasted each time you use that outlet. Now if you really want to get an idea of how much water is being wasted, do this at each hot water outlet you have in your house and you'll start to see about how many gallons of water go down the drain, waiting for hot water, each month. You're going to be surprised.

To solve this problem you can put in a circulating hot water system. To do this can be quite simple or it can be rather hard, depending on how the plumbing was first installed. First trace out the hot water line. If it's well exposed then it will be quite simple to install this system. Follow the line from the water tank to the outlet that is the greatest distance from the tank. Turn off the power to the tank and drain the hot water side of the system, completely, including the tank. Where that 90 degree elbow turns to go to the outlet, remove that elbow and replace it with a tee. Next go to the water tank and remove tha drain valve at the bottom of the tank and replace it with a short pipe ******, then a tee and then reinstall the drain valve in the other end of the tee run. Now install a line from the first tee at the outlet and run it back to the tank and install the other end to the tee branch side. Insulate the line with some foam insulation that can be purchased at any big box or plumbing store. At the top of the water tank remove the cold water line, coming into the tank, and install a flow check valve. MAKE SURE THE FLOW DIRECTION IS GOING INTO THE TANK. WARNING, DO NOT INSTALL THE CHECK VALVE BACKWARDS. Then reinstall the cold water to the tank. On the hot water outlet side of the tank remove the line and install a small electric inline water pump. This is the most expensive part of this installation. These pumps are very small, but the cost is rather high considering their size. You'll only need about a 1/8th to 1/4 HP size pump and the cost will be a little over $100. Install the pump in the line and reinstall the line to the tank. Fill the tank with water and check for leaks. Run the electrical line to the pump, then turn the power back on to the tank and pump and the installation is done. DO NOT RUN THE PUMP WITHOUT WATER IN THE SYSTEM.

Now what you'll have is a system that will provide hot water as soon as you turn on any hot water outlet, since the pump is constantly circulating hot water from the tank, through the system and back to the tank, keeping the line always heated. Insulating the entire hot water line, from the tank, back to the tank, will also help to lower your power bill. In a few months the cost of the pump will be made up by the amount of water saved that was wasted before, trying to preheat the line running to the outlet, that was being used. You will notice a drop in the amount of water used and your electric or gas bill will drop a little.

I installed this type of system in 2 homes I use to own and in my sons home and each time the system did pay for itself, in a short amonut of time and worked fine.

Hope this helps.

And NO, I am not a plumber, ...... never wanted to be one, but have worked around a few, in the construction trade, I worked in.
 

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Most new shower valves have a adjustable stop inside them. Here is where you set the max temp so your kids don't get scalded in the shower. However many people leave the parts out or just don't take the time to test and set them properly. If you do this you can have the hot water for clothes, dish washer etc and still be protected in the shower.
 
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