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ryan t

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Can anyone give me any info on this vise? I came across it last week. Swivels 360 degrees horizontal and 90 degrees verticle. Smooth face says machinist vise but it doesn't have any markings or anything. Has two metal notches screwed into the bottom for mounting but those can be removed. Any info would be appreciated. Weighs about ~35 pounds.

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Keeping it in the realm of small guys here. My wife got me this one for Father's Day:rocker:!! It's on its way to my locale thanks to the USPS!!
 

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That's too funny!! I was thinking someone on this site was probably bidding.

I don't want to rub salt in the wound, but that was my max bid:evil:.
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I bid a little higher than I wanted to. You never know what those things will go for, that one was relatively cheap compared to others recently!

I'm just glad it went to a fellow GJ member.
 
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EOC Jason got me motivated with all that big Reed (the vises, not the dude, lol!) talk late last week, so I decided to do my 4C. I've had it for quite a while, been sitting in the "waiting room", just waiting... Then, thanks to Jason, I sprung into action! One case of "Black Lung" later, here she is... (and there she'll stay until I get some help to move the pig...)

MAN... REED MAKES ONE DAMN FINE VISE!!!

Like Grandpa always said... "Beat it 'till it bleeds, then beat it for bleeding"!

Party Down!!!

ZOOM

p.s... I remembered the jaws Kevin...
 

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va.grouseman said:
Small salesman Prentiss. In good shape, just needs refurbishing.
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That's not a salesman's sample. That's an actual model - a jeweler's vise.

If it were me I would not touch that patina - just oil it up some and keep it 'as-is' - they are pretty rare -

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RatchetMan said:
It's your vise but since it's more of a collectible that a vise you'd use, I'd leave it alone.
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I agree... But you wouldn't believe how precise, stout and well made those tiny Prentiss's are. I could see a finely skilled craftsman using one daily. Of course, if there were any signs of abuse to show up, I would be forced to thrash him!
They made a stationary one too... I think gatewaysysops has one, but I'm not sure... They are neat!
 
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I couldn't resist, since I already had the big Reed out...

Grouseman's is in much better shape than mine, but it's still one of my favorites...
 

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Very nice zoomie, that color looks really good on the 4C.

That's cool how yours has the same little raised tabs in the casting on the side as mine.

How many vises do you have in the "waiting room"? Do you hold the nation's tactical stockpile of classic vises in case of WWIII?
 
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EOC_Jason said:
Very nice zoomie, that color looks really good on the 4C.

That's cool how yours has the same little raised tabs in the casting on the side as mine.

How many vises do you have in the "waiting room"? Do you hold the nation's tactical stockpile of classic vises in case of WWIII?
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Thanks Jason! Your 4C is sweet as well...

As far as how many vises I have... I don't honestly know... 100 maybe...?

I've sold a bunch in the last year (got some new ones too...), Phy6 bought a sweet Prentiss #23, two 6" Parkers and a nice sized Reed (at least I think that's what he bought...?) last year, and I've sold BRAX several Wiltons over the last couple of years, then sold a few on Craigslist and Ebay, gave a few away as gifts... Probably around 100 or so left, I'll go with that...!!!

No wife, no kids, no rules...

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That's a GREAT little vise WQ59B! I like that it has a machinists slide on it!

Does that decal say Athol or something else?
 
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Lump said:
Great anvil vise, Zoomie. Nice, nice, nice.
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Thanks Lump!

Here's the link to datamp for this one...

http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?pn=240217&id=27016

This one was easy, patent date on it and all...

But, I still have ONE (or two...)MORE vise(s) that is(are) a TOTAL MYSTERY.... No markings on it at all and I have searched and searched patent records for it, nothing... I've posted it before here before, no luck...

I like the Wilton's, Parkers and so on... but I like the weird ones too...
 
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Eoc Jason,---toomanytoyzz,---RatchetMan,---SweetD,---Zoomie,---Outlawmws, Thank you gentlemen for the info, advise, and positive feed on the Prentiss. I thought all miniatures were samplers, (salesmen's toys). I'm going to leave it just like it is.
Zoomie---Another beautiful 4C. You guys are killing me with those 4Cs. The only downside is yaw are making them to pretty to use.
Toomanytoyzz---If the vises keep getting smaller, soon we'll be looking at a white page assuming we're looking at a vise.
 
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va.grouseman said:
Zoomie---Another beautiful 4C. You guys are killing me with those 4Cs. The only downside is yaw are making them to pretty to use.
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My 4C gets used all the time. It has a few scratches in the paint but that's life. It's also kind of the reason I left the handle with the old patina on it, cuz when I'm using it my hands are usually all nasty and dirty and if I had polished it to a high shine then I would have to keep cleaning it off after ever use. ;)
 
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Both of the vises I use the most are pieces of poop! The two I use the most are a Morgan #135 with the swivel base welded to the base and a 5" Hollands with the swivel welded solid also... The rest are just for "viewing", lol!
 
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Does anyone have a Wilton 300S that they would like to trade for a Wilton 9400 with swivel base? PM me if interested.... or if anyone has a nice 300S for sale PM me. I know this isn't the "classified" section, but this is a little better audience for my inquiry... Thanks!
 
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ryan t said:
Can anyone give me any info on this vise? I came across it last week. Swivels 360 degrees horizontal and 90 degrees verticle. Smooth face says machinist vise but it doesn't have any markings or anything. Has two metal notches screwed into the bottom for mounting but those can be removed. Any info would be appreciated. Weighs about ~35 pounds.

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That looks to be a vise for a mill. And it looks to be a nice vise at that. Are there no markings at all on it? It could possibly be a Palmgren but I sort of doubt that.

Found it. It looks like this Interstate 4" double angle vise http://www.industryrecycles.com/int...uble-angle-milling-machine-vise-p-232760.html

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I have a question for some when restoring your vises. How many think it should go back to the original color when made? I have a Desmond Stephens vise and am just now stripping it down. The original color is some sort of ****** green. I'm going to repaint it in a high gloss red. One thing I did find out about it is that, although fairly heavy duty, the Desmond vise has some pretty crappy casting in areas. The front and back are fairly smooth, the sides have texture to them, then other places you can see where they cut the lugs off of the castings and it really tacky looking. To make it look really good would take days of sanding to finesse it in, so I may go with a high build primer before painting. I'll post up a couple of pics here shortly

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Kevin54 said:
I have a question for some when restoring your vises. How many think it should go back to the original color when made? I have a Desmond Stephens vise and am just now stripping it down. The original color is some sort of ****** green. I'm going to repaint it in a high gloss red. One thing I did find out about it is that, although fairly heavy duty, the Desmond vise has some pretty crappy casting in areas. The front and back are fairly smooth, the sides have texture to them, then other places you can see where they cut the lugs off of the castings and it really tacky looking. To make it look really good would take days of sanding to finesse it in, so I may go with a high build primer before painting. I'll post up a couple of pics here shortly.
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What some of the guys on the Old Woodworking Machines site do is use Bondo to fill in any rough areas before paint. Depending on how much you're going to "beat" on that vise it might work for you.

Steve
 
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Instead of Bondo, I've used JBWeld a couple times and it has turned out very nice. It does shrink a bit, but it's easy to sand down and can really take a beating.
 
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Okay, finally put together my Union Parker 974-1/2B... Waiting on the sticker to arrive for the other side, but other than that it's good to go!

I really like the color. Kind of wish I put a clear coat on over this but oh well... It's hard to photograph black, the camera keeps wanting to over-expose it.
 

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Steve V. said:
What some of the guys on the Old Woodworking Machines site do is use Bondo to fill in any rough areas before paint. Depending on how much you're going to "beat" on that vise it might work for you.

Steve
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It's not going to get "beat on" too much. I'm not doing any heavy work where I'll have to hit on the vise any. I was surprised though that the jaws that are in it are hardened. One has a chip out of the top, so I'm going to take a carbide end mill and surface it off. I wish I had a surface grinder to resurface them. They have a couple of "Vees" through them to hold round stock.

Also, I put in an e-mail to Desmond Stephans to see if I can find any info out as to when they quit making vises, how many different vise styles they made, and so on. They are right here in my town, so I'll see if I hear anything back, and if I do I'll post it up on here. :thumbup:
 
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I have this old ad I grabbed somewhere. I think it's the only Desmond ad I've seen... I'm sure someone else out there might have some more...
 

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