Is this board meant for older people??

PAToyota · Oct 11, 2006

Ok, ShopKing68, Skinner, shake hands and agree to disagree!

This is a great forum because of the diversity we have here and the usual lack of drama. Look at Nimrod's shop, BMWPower's shop, and OldCarGuy's shop. Each pretty different, none exactly like what I would have, but if I could "collect" shops and have a few I'd be honored to have any one of them (and several others on this board) in my collection!

I can think of several other boards that I don't frequent much anymore because too much of it is strutting and name calling.

Hey, anyone who takes the time to put some effort into putting together a shop that allows them to get out there and do something instead of just sit on the couch and watch the **** tube like 95% of the population seems to do has a "sweet shop" no matter what anyone thinks about the decor, projects, or how much was spent on it!

wrigh003 · Oct 11, 2006

PAToyota said:
I can think of several other boards that I don't frequent much anymore because too much of it is strutting and name calling.

Same here. Plus, arguing on the internet is stupid. There's an old and mildly offensive joke about the special olympics that relates, but I'll refrain.

I come here for ideas about how I want to do mine up when I get to build it/ see how others are building theirs, not to read a 5-page thread on "the way I built my shop is better than the way you did." I don't think I'm alone in that, and I predict that this thread will get locked pretty soon if it doesn't just fade away.

428 · Oct 11, 2006

Kinda reminds me of some in our HOA. If your house isn't brick you're somehow lower class than the ones that are, even though I know my place apprasied for more than several brick homes did.

As I've said before, I admire the people that can put out quality work in a falling down shack. I used to have a shack of a garage until I moved and built my current digs. Some have to have a show place, others just want what they want.
If given the opportunity I will go bigger better next time, and if it's in the country it'll probably be a pole or butler building. More sq feet for less duckets.

To be honest I never saw the Pepsi thread, heck I haven't found interior pics of your shop. Maybe not looking in the right place.
But like many others unless I have something to add, I look, read and move on.

FWIW, I think your building looks sharp. I couldn't care less if it's pole, metal, siding or brick. Nice job :thumbup:

Not sure if I'm considered older or not, but as my favorite teenage friend told us "We're cool old people"
I didn't know whether to kiss her or kick her :headscrat

JGard · Oct 11, 2006

Speaking of age, I'm only 27, FWIW. Just bought my first house in July and I'm in the process of converting the garage to a shop before winter hits so I can work on my project car

This board has been a great resource for me, but as you can see, I don't post much here. I have so little experience with this stuff, I find it's better to keep my mouth shut.

shopking68 · Oct 11, 2006

SKINNER said:
Yeah, my neighborhood doesn't allow metal buildings (I'm not a fan of metal), which is okay because all of the garages in the neighborhood match w/ the brick and all.

As for cost, I did everything myself which saves alot of cash. But regardless, I feel like my garage and the way I am finishing it (epoxy, drywall, full bathroom, etc.) will add a lot of value to my home; even a non-car guy would be interested in it. Where as a pole barn/metal building really only appeals to a certain market. You know?

So what you are saying is that a pole barn only applys to certain people, like not rich people??

I could of bought a house in a nice quiet controlled housing addition and had my house match everyone elses and be boring. But me and my wife chose a smaller cheaper house to have as our first house. Fix it up and live there for about 5-10 years and then get some more land and build a brand new house someday, but u get the idea.

Well my shop is not a living area so I dont need a bathroom and drywall (waste of money IMO)

I actually get dirty in there and work on cars, its not just for show...

My house is brick too, but I chose not to make a brick shop also.

SKINNER · Oct 11, 2006

shopking68 said:
Well my shop is not a living area so I dont need a bathroom and drywall (waste of money IMO)

I actually get dirty in there and work on cars, its not just for show...

Whatever, I'll end it here. I'm not willing to argue with you on the web. I too work and get dirty in my shop (hence the bathroom, not to track grease inside). I am ASE master certified, Ford/GM Engine, Chassis, and Electrical Master, and a hobbyist fabricator, etc., etc....

I do tons of work in my shop, I want it to double as a party barn too though, hence the drywall and "showiness"

Peace, have fun in your shop. :thumbup:

Shhted · Oct 11, 2006

Count your blessings. I'm older than both of you and my "shop" consists of what I can cram into a 3' x 4' corner of my two car garage.

Keep it in perspective. For the luv, foo. :Mr.T:

wrigh003 · Oct 11, 2006

@ JGard.

shopking68 · Oct 12, 2006

SKINNER said:
Whatever, I'll end it here. I'm not willing to argue with you on the web. I too work and get dirty in my shop (hence the bathroom, not to track grease inside). I am ASE master certified, Ford/GM Engine, Chassis, and Electrical Master, and a hobbyist fabricator, etc., etc....

I do tons of work in my shop, I want it to double as a party barn too though, hence the drywall and "showiness"

Peace, have fun in your shop.

Ok I have no problem with you skinner.

We all have one thing in common here, we all like garages, and thats a good thing.

Skinner I like your house and your garage, its looking very nice. :thumbup:

BigJackDaddy · Oct 14, 2006

Congratulations on all your replies. :rocker:

Is this board meant for older people?

Older than who? From what I've just read in this thread I can see that I'm older than some and not as old as others. :headscrat

:

Originally Posted by Junkman104
Hell I can't speak for everyone but I didn't have any money untill I was 45.

Thanks for the ray of hope, JunkMan!

Originally Posted by Charles (in GA)
I learned auto mechanicing and such from my father, it was something along the lines of "son you have to learn or you will end up paying others to do this for you, and you probably won't be able to afford to do that".

I learned from getting in my Dad's way as well... and now my boys are starting to slow me down (I love it). We're not different, just the same at different times.

Originally Posted by PAToyota
Don't get me wrong, but they're a couple rusty chunks of metal... Ok, you're going to turn them into something sweet.

and they'll do 9.2 in the quarter!
:3gears:

Originally Posted by bmwpower
That's how you're supposed to do that? Dang it, you just taught me something new.

Something about old dogs should go here :lol_hitti

:

I know I should've replied to each individually to increase my "Post Count" since "posts > credibility" or something, but I digress.

Am I done? :deadhorse

C_F · Oct 14, 2006

Geez, I don't log on for a couple days & look what happens. :headscrat

wilbilt · Oct 14, 2006

...and I had my heart set on a sweet pole barn. Now that I know that is an impossibility, what should I do?

Even though I only have 15 years' worth of ASE certification, I do/fix/build everything myself, as I cannot afford to get out my checkbook and watch someone else do it. I thought (obviously, I'm an idiot) that a pole barn with a lift would be vastly superior to lying on my back in the mud. In fact, I thought it would be "sweet".

I am so glad that I found this thread, because now I know that I must change my life's plans. My new goal is to buy a brick house in a HOA controlled subdivision, where I will be allowed to have a "sweet" garage. Hopefully, there will be a couple of hours on Saturdays when I will be allowed to make some noise.

I appreciate the enlightenment regarding the errors in my thinking. I am only hoping that someday, "this board" will consider my garage worthy of being "sweet".

SCOOTER · Oct 14, 2006

Ok I'll give a couple of pennies on this one....I live on a 1/4 ac. AND along with city code..I could only build 10% of my lot size (footprint)...so I opted to go with a stick built, two story shop...this would allow me the space to do my work..(never enough) and also give me 1000 sq' to do as I please upstairs..it has ballooned into a second house (well almost) it will have a bathroom , office and one hell-of-a "MAN ROOM"..I think that a metal pole building is fine "IF" you have the space to have one..in my situation it would be toooo close to my house..be tooo big and make my already lil **** hole of a house look even uglier......this "tower" I'm building now is bad enough...But I know when it's finished and painted it will be fine ...WELL until I get to rip the roof off the house and do some remodeling..... :wtf:

shopking68 · Oct 16, 2006

wilbilt said:
...and I had my heart set on a sweet pole barn. Now that I know that is an impossibility, what should I do?

Even though I only have 15 years' worth of ASE certification, I do/fix/build everything myself, as I cannot afford to get out my checkbook and watch someone else do it. I thought (obviously, I'm an idiot) that a pole barn with a lift would be vastly superior to lying on my back in the mud. In fact, I thought it would be "sweet".

I am so glad that I found this thread, because now I know that I must change my life's plans. My new goal is to buy a brick house in a HOA controlled subdivision, where I will be allowed to have a "sweet" garage. Hopefully, there will be a couple of hours on Saturdays when I will be allowed to make some noise.

I appreciate the enlightenment regarding the errors in my thinking. I am only hoping that someday, "this board" will consider my garage worthy of being "sweet".

wythors · Oct 16, 2006

shopking68 said:

It's called "sarcasm", a device fequently employed by older people as a type of humor. In this case, it is a subtle put-down of Mr. Skinner in his attempt to show everyone what a huge ***** he has by extolling the virtues of his own home, shop, certifications and skills. Quite skillfully done by Mr. Wilbilt, in my opinion. :thumbup:

shopking68 · Oct 16, 2006

wythors said:
It's called "sarcasm", a device fequently employed by older people as a type of humor. In this case, it is a subtle put-down of Mr. Skinner in his attempt to show everyone what a huge ***** he has by extolling the virtues of his own home, shop, certifications and skills. Quite skillfully done by Mr. Wilbilt, in my opinion.

Ooooh, I see, thx :bounce:

tubeman · Oct 16, 2006

Ok, I read all the posts and I think shopkings garage is sweet and I'd love to have the coke machine (full of beer of course)!

D-Cal · Oct 16, 2006

This thread is largely garbage.

wilbilt · Oct 16, 2006

wythors said:
It's called "sarcasm", a device fequently employed by older people as a type of humor. In this case, it is a subtle put-down of Mr. Skinner in his attempt to show everyone what a huge ***** he has by extolling the virtues of his own home, shop, certifications and skills. Quite skillfully done by Mr. Wilbilt, in my opinion.

Thanks.....I think....

Sorry, I get that way now and then. I'll try to keep it under control.

Or not. :beer:

Inetmonkey · Oct 16, 2006

wilbilt said:
I'll try to keep it under control.

Why? I laughed my *** off at that post.

428 · Oct 16, 2006

I'm actually looking forward to firing up my engine with straight headers on it in my Sub. And tell the HOA :fawk:

while I take it for a test :3gears:

We have to build with like materials and similar design to the house. Not that big a deal for me but some owners have to pay much more just to have a detached garage to match the house.
I caught **** because my detached garage doors face the road, even though it's considered an out building and 200 feet off the road.
Attached garage I'll give them that it can't face the road per restrictions, outbuildings only have to be behind the house back line. :see:

I know, I was on the HOA for several years.
HOA's serve a purpose but depending on the idiots in charge at any particular time, interpretations change.

And notice, you can barely even see my detached behind the house.

Actually, I think this thread has been; amusing.

shopking68 · Oct 16, 2006

D-Cal said:
This thread is largely garbage.

Thanks for posting in the garbage thread :wtf:

I asked a simple question and it turns the whole board upside down, I'm sorry guys

Coach James · Oct 16, 2006

Well, I'm not ASE anything, I'm just a school teacher with 2 car attached garage but would love to have a detached pole barn type garage. One of my buddies has a small farm with a pole barn. It's two stories, concrete floor and large double doors on each end. He can park 6 cars in it and still have some room to work. The second floor has old oil burners and tobacco curing equipment in it. I like my garage, but I still want to have a pole barn. And a drink machine full of Diet Coke would be A+ as I don't mix John Barleycorn and power tools/machinery.

No need to apologize shopking. Interesting thread.

Coach

wythors · Oct 16, 2006

shopking68 said:
I asked a simple question and it turns the whole board upside down, I'm sorry guys

Dude, you posted a valid question and a lot of people answered you in a civil way. Unfortunately, a couple of people here (as on every board I frequent) have no manners. You've behaved much more maturely than they have. You didn't ask for opinions on your shop, they offerred them in an unsolicited manner and you were just in defending yourself. Even a Chevy owner has that right.

:lol_hitti

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

wilbilt · Oct 16, 2006

wythors said:
Even a Chevy owner has that right.

HEY!

Red Forman drives a Corvette.... :thumbup:

shopking68, the shop looks great. Make it the place you want it to be.

Ask 100 people "what makes a sweet garage?" (shop), and you will get 110 different answers. :beer:

wythors · Oct 16, 2006

wilbilt said:
HEY!

Red Forman drives a Corvette....

It's his outlook on life that makes him my hero, not the 'Vette. Though, if I was forced to drive a Chevrolet, an early 'Vette would be my choice. :bounce:

Besides, everyone knows that Red had to sell his car when Kitty got "pregnant".

*******. :lol_hitti

wilbilt · Oct 16, 2006

wythors said:
*******.

LOL...Kitty's pretty hot...

Speaking of Dumbasses...my dad had a Triumph TR4 back in the mid-60s. A guy he worked with offered to trade him a '63 Corvette for it. He didn't do it. :wtf:

jloveridge · Oct 17, 2006

shopking68 said:
I asked a simple question and it turns the whole board upside down, I'm sorry guys

Dude don't sweat it. I am older than most here from what I can see (pushing 53) and have been accused by some of my friends of having a garage that is nicer than their living room. :headscrat

I saw somebody in this thread say they did not have any money until they were past 45 or so. Count me in that group. I had some pretty crappy garages used to keep my old cars running for many years. Not building fancy stuff, just keeping the daily drivers running.

I have to say one thing that confuses me about some of the replies is the constant reference to "shop". I guess I thought this was The Garage Journal. I don't have a "shop". But I did replace the shocks and repair the sway bar links and change the air filter on my truck in my "garage" last weekend.

If I can find one this week, I may even get crazy and replace the seat in the truck next weekend. Might even do it in my garage.

Bottom line: Congrats on your garage or shop or shed or barn or whatever. Enjoy it and don't worry too much about what others think. :thumbup:

IMHO, You certainly have the room, there is some significant history to the machines, you like them. Enjoy!

I come here because I enjoy all the different great ideas people have. If I see one I like and it works in my garage, I may steal it and call it my own. I even enjoy looking at the "shops" on display. :bounce:

shopking68 · Oct 17, 2006

Wow, thanks for all the comments guys, you guys are very mature and cool about a lot of stuff, thanks for not getting mad and ripping me up about this question, I appreciate a lot

wilbilt · Oct 17, 2006

jloveridge said:
I have to say one thing that confuses me about some of the replies is the constant reference to "shop". I guess I thought this was The Garage Journal.

I guess that depends on what your definition of "garage" is. For me a "garage" is and always has been a "shop", i.e., a place to work on things. From a young age, the garage was for taking things apart, putting them back together, and getting dirty in the process.

Technically, I guess the definition of "garage" is a place to park vehicles. Although I guess there are people that own and drive cars without ever working on them, I don't fall into that category and hope I never do.

If this board is truly intended only for the discussion of "garages", please let me know now before I waste any more time here. I suspect that it isn't, due to the tool forum here. I don't see any need for tools in a "for parking only" garage. I guess in my eyes, a "shop" is a garage with repair, maintenance, and fabrication capability.

PAToyota · Oct 17, 2006

I started to make a clear distinction between my "shop" and a "garage" when an ex-girlfriend got to the point where we were talking about her moving in and she made a comment along the lines of getting rid of all those tools and that old car (the Mustang) that were "cluttering things up" so that we could park our daily driver cars in there like "all normal people do with their garages..." :wtf:

And no, that wasn't the immediate cause for us breaking up. But it did clue me in to the fact that we were looking at life quite a bit differently.

So I now say "shop" to make it clear that there is a distinction between it and your average suburban "garage" where your NASCAR dad and soccer mom park their SUV and mini-van... :thumbup:

tiny1 · Oct 17, 2006

I am currently in the planning stages for my 'shop/garage/pole barn' that I plan on parking the daily drivers, working on the dd's, lawn tractor, snowblower, future project vehicle blah, blah, blah. So whatever a person wants to call their 'building' its their decision and personally I would take anything right now instead of doing what little work I do on my vehicles in my gravel driveway on my back.

428 · Oct 17, 2006

Since this thread has more curves than Pamela Anderson I throw my 2 cents back in.
We call the attached 2 car "the garage" And usually we call the detached garage "the Shop"
Mainly so when I go out to work she knows where to find me to bring me a cold frosty later. :beer:

Tim G · Oct 18, 2006

Y'know,looking at this thread,one thing is kinda lost....
We're ALL car guys!
Whether you make 100k plus a year,or are a kid struggling to make ends meet,EVERYONE in this forum spends a sizable chunk of there time/money in or on their garage /shop,whether it be a shed in the backyard,or the "Garage Mahal" w/tile floors and a fleet of collector cars.
I'm 43,work in a small bodyshop,and after hours,customers will stop in for small favors and general BS....
The .Com multimillionare that races SCCA as a hobby,the construction worker w/2 kids and the primered 55 chevy,the 20 year old kid that does inspection stickers w/an 11 second Mitsu Lancer Evo,ALL learn from one another,and respect one anothers opinions.
This is a pretty neat site,learned alot for the steel building I'll put up someday to get myself out of the 18'by 25' attatched garage next to my kitchen,some ideas I'll use may have come from a 60 year old mechanic,some may come from a 22 year old college student,but what does it matter?
WE'RE ALL CAR GUYS!!!!!
Oh Ya,I'm gonna have the old style Coke/Pepsi/BEER machine!!!!!

shopking68 · Oct 18, 2006

428 said:
Since this thread has more curves than Pamela Anderson I throw my 2 cents back in.
We call the attached 2 car "the garage" And usually we call the detached garage "the Shop"
Mainly so when I go out to work she knows where to find me to bring me a cold frosty later.

But since I have a full size fridge in my shop now I dont have to go inside the house to get drinks

428 · Oct 18, 2006

How many men does it take to open a beer?

None, it should be open when "she" brings it to you. :beer2:

I have been looking for the miniature coke box fridge, usually see them around Christmas, holds a 6 pack.

wythors · Oct 18, 2006

428 said:
How many men does it take to open a beer?

None, it should be open when "she" brings it to you.

Beat me to it. :beer:

Inetmonkey · Oct 18, 2006

I'll add yet another curve...

428 said:
I have been looking for the miniature coke box fridge, usually see them around Christmas, holds a 6 pack.

Check this one out.

JohnZ · Oct 19, 2006

My "office" is in the garage, and the cold ones are never more than an arm's length away... :beer:

Willy Victor · Oct 20, 2006

wilbilt said:
I guess that depends on what your definition of "garage" is. For me a "garage" is and always has been a "shop", i.e., a place to work on things. From a young age, the garage was for taking things apart, putting them back together, and getting dirty in the process.

Technically, I guess the definition of "garage" is a place to park vehicles. Although I guess there are people that own and drive cars without ever working on them, I don't fall into that category and hope I never do.

If this board is truly intended only for the discussion of "garages", please let me know now before I waste any more time here. I suspect that it isn't, due to the tool forum here. I don't see any need for tools in a "for parking only" garage. I guess in my eyes, a "shop" is a garage with repair, maintenance, and fabrication capability.

Even with airplanes, they are not parked in the hangar, hangars are for maintenance. Planes are parked on the flight line.

Willy

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