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This is unbelievable! Thanks for all the detailed photos and desciptions of them.

I think you both are a great couple and should be proud of yourselves!!!!
 
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What a fantastic build .......you two are an inspiration to all who read this and to those who get to see it in person.
 

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Derrick is cool. It's amazing what a skilled imaginative craftsman can accomplish. Good luck with your build.

Looking forward to updates!
 

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Went to your web site and checked out your pictures. Impressive. See you got your ceder at Red River in Batesville. I am in Jonesboro and had a place at Ash Flat once. So I guess you are a neighbor.
 

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She was nervous about the height so I tied her to the header.
One way to conquer the problem! You folks are doing great work!! I'm learning new skills to use when I retire in 13 months!!
 
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Well here we are again. Would like to say thanks to all that have taken time to look and post a lot of kind words. As we said when we put the first post up, this is a DIY or at least as true to a DIY as we can keep it.
It also is a low budget project and hope that we reflect that. Not that there is anything wrong with someone spending a whole bunch of money and hiring a huge crew to do it, there is not. However we don’t have it and needed to build as inexpensive as we can. It can cause some extra problems, mostly time related, but it is what it is. And it was to that end that we felt that there might be others that could benefit from our project.
We haven’t been able to do a thing on it since Thanksgiving due to the weather and it is really ticking us off. Arkansas is not supposed to be this cold. We are originally from central New England and should be used to it, but have been away from there for 11 years now and also getting older too.
So lets put up a few more pics and as always if you want to see all the pics up to date along with the ones that we have not posted on here you can go to the web site. www.ninetyninesigns.com


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Above; This next set of pictures will deal with framing up the gable ends and making Derrick a bit lower.
Our lil 97 F150 with some more sticks. Have learned to buy only what you can use in a reasonable amount of time. Plus that bed with the lid won’t haul much anyways.
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Above; First 2 x 6 x 10’ gets nailed to the posts.
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Above; Shows notches cut into vertical studs.
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Above; Studs held in place with c-clamps while I nail them.
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Above; West end done.
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Above; Octagon vent that we had leftover from a project in Texas. It is just held in place with a couple of nails so Lin could see how it will look. It will not be functional either because it will interrupt the full ridge vent.
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Above; Repeated on the East gable without the box for the vent.
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Above; View from inside. The four small rectangles over the door way will be windows .
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Above; Starting to alter Derrick. Removing the stairway.
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Above; Removing the wheels.
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Above; Moved the side braces up 37 inches. This is the amount we will cut off of Derrick.
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Above; Balanced off an old post jack.
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Above; Cutting the legs off.
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Above; Lin now calls it Derrick Jr.
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Above; Reinstall stairs and wheels and he is ready to go back to work.
Stay warm and thanks for looking.
 

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WOW!

If I can have a third of your drive and energy when I'm just 50 I'll be so very happy. You are an inspiration, and to have both of you equally passionate about this project is a real blessing. Subscribed.

A third of their driveway ya mean....ha Really great job on the barn,cant wait to see more.....mada
 

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Great job on the barn and nice photos. Gotta love those wifes who aren't afraid of getting those hands dirty. I first tought my wife the construction trade back in 1991 when we got married and built are 1st home, now 19 years later she knows more then most men. This is my first time here at the garage journal and i think i'm addicted. I am currently about 75% percent complete on my 30'x54' garage/workshop/man cave that i started building a few years ago. I am kicking myself for not snapping more photos during construction. I will start posting some photos soon.
 

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So, did you find any lint in your belly button?? (LOL).

I admire your energy and that of your wife. Amazing build. I hope I'm able to do that when I'm 70.
 

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NASMAN, you remind me of my dad. Planning, attention to detail, the importance of cleaning up your work area at the end of the day - he's been gone 15 years and reading your thread has been like watching dad, thank you.
 

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wow i am truly blown away, keep up the good work.


cheers chook...
 
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More pictures

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Above; Building the headers for the bottom end of the outside rafters.
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Above; Setting the outside Simpson post locators , note string.
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Above; Outer Douglas Fir posts squared and cut for length.
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Above; 2 x 4 attached to Derrick’s pull out drawers to hold posts in place while adding headers and braces.
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Above; Derrick holds stuff real good.
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Above; Making 2 x 4 holes in Derricks side so he can help hold up the headers. Hey the hat is back, Too!
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Above; The other end gets a joist hanger so that 2 x 4 can slide thru to be out of the way when Derrick goes between posts.
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Above; Header sitting on pull out studs , ready to clamp up.
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Above; Using ratchet straps to lift and hold one end while I lift and clamp the other end.
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Above; First set up and Derrick moved to do another bay.
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Above; South side post up. Now will repeat on the North side.
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Above; Both sides done , ready for rafters.
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Above; Detail of top of side posts.
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Above; Inside tie to post.
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Above; Soffit boards. Cut a 4 x 8 sheet of rough sawn yellow pine into 12 inch strips.
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Above; Cut a sheet of OSB into 3 inch strips and glued to back of soffit boards.
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Above; Adding spacers to match with rafters.
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Above; Stained and ready to put up.
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Above; Here is where they go.
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Above; Predrilling the screw holes.
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Above; Yup , it goes up there. Note the drill hanging from the top so that I will be able to reach it and fire in the first screws.
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Above; Panels in place. I did these now so that I could walk on top of Derrick without the coming roof rafter being in the way.

We are so glad to hear from so many of you from all around the world.
Enjoy.
 

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Still continues to impress! Keep em coming!
 
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Where do you get the "foil bubble foil" and what did the use for the "Bottom closure and condensation weep strip"?

Thanks,
Gary

Adding more pictures.
 
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NASMAN

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Where do you get the "foil bubble foil" and what did the use for the "Bottom closure and condensation weep strip"?

Thanks,
Gary

The foil bubble foil is available from most metal roofing suppliers. You don't show where you are from and if it is an area that doesn't do much in metal building then that may be more of a problem. It is however also handled by a lot of home centers.
There are quite a few brands of this stuff. AstroFoil is a good one , but is not the one that we are using because we got ours from a local metal roof supplier and they switched to an other brand. You can learn a lot about this stuff by doing a google search. Just type in foil bubble foil.
The closures need to come from the metal roof supplier. They need to match the profile of the metal. All the suppliers have these. Should cost you under a dollar each. Some are interchangeable with different metal supplers. Mine are. Roof supplier wanted $1.20 each and an other guy that I had checked with( but didn't like his steel) used closures made by the same people and sold them to me for .85 cents each.
The weep strips are pieces of the vent system that I am using. Cor-A-vent.
http://www.cor-a-vent.com/ventilation-products.cfm The vent strips are corragated strips , stapled together to form a one inch wide vent. I just take out the staples and use one section under each closure , nailed with a short roofing nail. I get the closures with the glue on them and stick one in the right place on top of the weep strip. This shuld let any moisture that may get od the foil and under the tin be able weep out.
Arkansas is very humid at times and condensation is something we are concerned with.
The picture below is what is being referred to. A nine inch piece will be cut from a strip and added to the right side of that full strip.
Hope this has been of some help.
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Lin, Dave. I'm not qiute as old as you, turned 68 today, but I got to say, there's a snowball's chance in Hell that I'd under-take what you two have. You're absolutely ****** marvels. I raise my hat to you both. I envy your health, strength, inginuity and sheer cuts to complete your dream. May your God see to it that you finish it without mishap, that you enjoy the results of your labours and that you inspire other to 'dare to be challenged'.

A bit late I know, but best wishes to all members and guests for 2010, from a hot (37*/97* which ever scale you prefer) South Australia.

Stay safe everyone, Doug. :beer:
 

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I just finished reading this and want to say the work you both are doing is absoulutley amazing...please keep up the great work and be safe doing it....
 
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Roof rafters over the wing sections. And framing for the windows.
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Above; Making saw guides to use to cut the rafters. It will take six different guides to cut all the cuts.
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Above; This allows me to make both cuts on the birdsmouth with a framing saw. Finish the cut with a hand held crosscut saw. These couldn’t be cut all at once like I did the top ones because the length of each varried by quarter of an inch. Plus or minus. Because wood has a mind of it’s own sometimes.
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Above; This one will make the end cut 18 inches from the header.
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Above; First one fitted and nailed in place.
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Above; Good view to show wing rafters and to also show why we had to cut 37 inches out of Derrick.
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Above; 2 x 6 will hold top of rafters from twisting and also be the base for the window framing.
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Above; Lin’s 70th birthday. We took the day off got the bike out and went for a 100 or so mile ride thru the winding roads of Arkansas. Found a new Mexican restaurant , it was fun.
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Above; Rafters done on both sides.
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Above; Making hurricane ties out of Simpson flat stock. Couldn’t find any that would fit this app any where around here or on the net.
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Above; Using a 2 x 8 and clamps to get the bends tight.
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Above; Mark the angle.
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Above; Bottom bend.
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Above; If you can’t buy em , bend em.
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Above; Ties go on the three rafters between the posts. Use a regular simpson joist nail.
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Above; Making a window frame. 2 x 8 cut down to 6 3/8 inches to match framing.
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Above; Notch both top inside corners to clear side braces.
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Above; Lifting it in place.
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Above; Clamps hold in place while nail with gun from outside. See side rails on one on left.
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Above; Had to use a palm nailer up under the eve.
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Above; Window framing done on this side just a repeat on south side.

This is where we were on Sept. 30, 09.
 

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Simply inspiring. You get bonus points for being retired but I would be impressed if you were both in your twenties (which your wife looks - tell her I said so). Your building knowledge did not come easily - may I ask where you obtained it? Was it a product of your previous employment or just years of DIY?
 
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I agree, this doesn't look like your first rodeo building something like this. I love the use of jigs and Derrick.
 
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Simply inspiring. You get bonus points for being retired but I would be impressed if you were both in your twenties (which your wife looks - tell her I said so). Your building knowledge did not come easily - may I ask where you obtained it? Was it a product of your previous employment or just years of DIY?

My family, when I was a kid bought fixer upers and sold them. I learned most of the basics then I guess. The first house Lin and I owned was one hundred eighty years old. We had it 22 year and I compleatly restored (rebuilt) it by the time we sold it. My occupation tho was with autos. Did it all until I was 37 and had a heart attack. Doctors told Lin that I needed to get out of that line of work. We sold out and bought an old time country store. Had it for fourteen years, worked so hard forgot about the heart attack. Retired to Texas but it got so expensive to live there we both wound up back in retail. Eight years later here we are in Arkansas.
Self taught and learned by making a lot of mistakes. Still doing it.
Well time to hit the bedroom , can't keep that twenty year old waiting.
 

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I'm a woodworker, and those joints you're making are very well done. I REALLY appreciate your work. Nice job!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim C.
 

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Good photos, better work, and the BEST choice in a marriage partner!!! :thumbup:

Incredible job, y'all!!! :bowdown:

Please keep us posted...
 

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What an inspiration you two are...I have been debating whether to build my dream garage, which had to be postponed for nearly 10 years due to my ecomonic situation...recently I have been wondering if I am too old to do the project and enjoy it when I am finished...

You are very convincing that I have been looking at it all wrong...

I am subscribing...Please keep posting, even after it is done! I want to see what will be going on inside this great garage and workshop!

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very nice I hope I am in as good a shape as you when I hit 60 much less 70.
 

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Fantastic! Two thumbs up and an amazing build for the two of you. You are flying!!
 

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My family, when I was a kid bought fixer upers and sold them. I learned most of the basics then I guess. The first house Lin and I owned was one hundred eighty years old. We had it 22 year and I compleatly restored (rebuilt) it by the time we sold it. My occupation tho was with autos. Did it all until I was 37 and had a heart attack. Doctors told Lin that I needed to get out of that line of work. We sold out and bought an old time country store. Had it for fourteen years, worked so hard forgot about the heart attack. Retired to Texas but it got so expensive to live there we both wound up back in retail. Eight years later here we are in Arkansas.
Self taught and learned by making a lot of mistakes. Still doing it.
Well time to hit the bedroom , can't keep that twenty year old waiting.

:lol_hitti

I hope 40 years from now I can say the same things- I'm in middle of making all those mistakes and learning how to fix stuff on my own with my own house. It's not 180 years old (!!!), but it still needs work.

Awesome job. The post and beam framing is beautiful, and your attention to detail is outstanding. Well done. Keep after it. :)
 

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Lin and Dave,

Your work and life are amazing.

at 59 I've been feeling a little tired and worn out lately. After reading this thread over the last two mornings I've decided to add that new lean to onto the barn after all. My wife and I built a lot of our house and all of the barn. I think the reason I've been feeling tired and worn lately is I haven't built anything in the last two years. Well, except for a granite wall and a wrought iron fence for the wife. Time to get out the tools and get back to work. Thanks for the inspiration. And please, be careful. We don't move quite as fast as we use to. :thumbup:
 

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I'm from Cincinnati Ohio. I have found some similar (bubble foil) but it is 4' wide and 125' long.

Thanks for the info, you are doing a awesome job thanks for sharing.

EDIT: Where did you buy the Cor-A-vent pieces at, local or off the web?


Gary

The foil bubble foil is available from most metal roofing suppliers. You don't show where you are from and if it is an area that doesn't do much in metal building then that may be more of a problem. It is however also handled by a lot of home centers.
There are quite a few brands of this stuff. AstroFoil is a good one , but is not the one that we are using because we got ours from a local metal roof supplier and they switched to an other brand. You can learn a lot about this stuff by doing a google search. Just type in foil bubble foil.
The closures need to come from the metal roof supplier. They need to match the profile of the metal. All the suppliers have these. Should cost you under a dollar each. Some are interchangeable with different metal supplers. Mine are. Roof supplier wanted $1.20 each and an other guy that I had checked with( but didn't like his steel) used closures made by the same people and sold them to me for .85 cents each.
The weep strips are pieces of the vent system that I am using. Cor-A-vent.
http://www.cor-a-vent.com/ventilation-products.cfm The vent strips are corragated strips , stapled together to form a one inch wide vent. I just take out the staples and use one section under each closure , nailed with a short roofing nail. I get the closures with the glue on them and stick one in the right place on top of the weep strip. This shuld let any moisture that may get od the foil and under the tin be able weep out.
Arkansas is very humid at times and condensation is something we are concerned with.
The picture below is what is being referred to. A nine inch piece will be cut from a strip and added to the right side of that full strip.
Hope this has been of some help.
tinroofno41809_11.gif
 
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This is a great post... most people I know your age are sitting around "waiting to pass on" for lack of a better term. My grandparents are all passed and none of them did anything like this when they were in their 70s. My Pa pa (mother's step-father) was a real handi-man and had a huge wood shop but he passed from cancer in a hurry @ 67. My father is 62 and still working his full-time job and is finally starting to feel his age a bit, I'll have to link him this thread... great work keep it up.

Really shows you that "use it or lose it" is a reality.
 
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Lin and Dave,

Your work and life are amazing.

at 59 I've been feeling a little tired and worn out lately. After reading this thread over the last two mornings I've decided to add that new lean to onto the barn after all. My wife and I built a lot of our house and all of the barn. I think the reason I've been feeling tired and worn lately is I haven't built anything in the last two years. Well, except for a granite wall and a wrought iron fence for the wife. Time to get out the tools and get back to work. Thanks for the inspiration. And please, be careful. We don't move quite as fast as we use to. :thumbup:

Lin and I spend an enjoyable time on BuickFramer’s thread and the barn album link. To receive kudos from someone that has that amazing place is really special to us.
We personally recommend that if you are reading this and have not visited his thread , to take a look.
To view the BuickFarmer thread Click Here
 
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