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Craftsman Professional (Imported Wilton) 4 1/2" Vise Restoration

kythri

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It's done!

See the old rusty **** here:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123880

And the finished product:

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Used Rustoleum self-etching primer and Dupli-Color DE1640 "Plum Purple" Engine Enamel.

Turned out reasonably decent for the first time I've ever actually painted anything properly.
 
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autopts

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Great restoration. Those Chinese Wiltons are rated at 60,000 psi..
 

dlleno

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very nice work did you remove the screw assembly and end cap, or leave those in tact? I'm interested to know the condition of yours, i.e. inside the "bullet".
 

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Wow that turned out beautiful. I love the new color compared to the red. Very nice restoration.
 

dlleno

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Congrats! I am considering buying one. What are your thoughts?

my thoughts are that (FUNCTIONALY) buying the craftsman pro vise is alot like finding a used 1745 in good working condition, with new jaws and bad surface paint, for $100. Of course, that is, if you can accept that this vise is a Chinese copy of an imported Wilton :D. make no mistake -- this is not U.S. iron; its just a good impersonation. Anyway, I'm still in the process of becoming "one" with mine, but so far the form, fitment, and function are all very good -- only the surface is substandard.

buyers of this one will probably want to restore the finish within a few short years because there is no primer under that red paint and it shows signs of early failure right out of the box (at least mine did). just inspect closely and you will immediately see this. other points of wisdom I have found here and for myself:

1. take off the jaws and apply anti-sieze to the screw threads. I can't even get mine off with a conventional philips screwdriver and elbow greese... so this step is pretty important

2. take off the dynamic jaw and lead screw (just unscrew and it will fall off) and shine a flashlight into the "bullet". look for dry surfaces and rust, esp on the outer surface of the internal screw assembly (what the lead screw goes into).

3. at purchase time, check out the play/wobble in the lead screw where it mates up to the dynamic jaw casting. the first copy I inspected at Sears had too much slop in it, so I picked a different one to purchase.

4. use it for a while until the paint really starts to peel, and then restore it. then you will have the closest thing to a $400 vise, for $150 tops, including restoration materials. Well, it won't be a U.S. Wilton but it will be better than a Chinese copy of an imported Wilton! Thanks kythri for the example and inspiration!

5. watch sears sales until the price drops below $100. Lately, the price has jumped around between $130, $107, and $101 and then suddenly on 1/8 it appeared at $99. In addition, I found a generic 5% discount coupon for on-line purchases and selected in-store pickup, droping the price to $94.

Attached is a photo from Slip_Kid -- of his 1745 parts, where I have added text to describe what I mean in (3) above.
 

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dlleno

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I don't mean to hyjack kythri's thread here, which I have found to be most useful and even inspirational (!) -- I just want to point out that of all the $100 ish imported vises out there that are readily available at HF, Sears, HD, Lowes, and numerous other places including Amazon and Northern tool, this one is a winner. The key difference is the bullet -- I just cannot find this design anywhere in the other imports, which I find (as I've said in another thread) to be uniformly horrible: the (rectangular) mechanism binds up, the lead screw takes effort to operate, the jaws are wobbly when un-clamped, and the casting is weak. But the craftsman pro, as others have most astutely pointed out, is a copy of the wilton 1745. It may be assembled by a 12 year old boy making $2/hour working 12 hour days in substandard conditions -- that is an unfortunate reality of the Chinese business model -- but its a very good impersonation of a very good vise, and needs only a little TLC on the surface paint.

I really do wish I had the real thing, but I have as close to it as possible, without the history of U.S. iron behind it, of course.
 
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autopts

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If anyone is near Chicago and wants that Sears vise. I have a new one, in the box, never used. $75 .
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If anyone is near Chicago and wants that Sears vise. I have a new one, in the box, never used. $75 .

How close to Chicago? I work in Burr Ridge... wait, never mind. I don't really need a third one of these. Unless no one else wants it! :bounce:

my thoughts are that (FUNCTIONALY) buying the craftsman pro vise is alot like finding a used 1745 in good working condition, with new jaws and bad surface paint, for $100. Of course, that is, if you can accept that this vise is a Chinese copy of an imported Wilton :D

Are you sure the 1745 is imported? Their catalog still lists as Made in USA.
 
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Nice job.
If I could find some Powr-Kraft water slide decals,I would re do mine.
I know that would be next too impossible though.
 

dlleno

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How close to Chicago? I work in Burr Ridge... wait, never mind. I don't really need a third one of these. Unless no one else wants it! :bounce:



Are you sure the 1745 is imported? Their catalog still lists as Made in USA.

appologies I just realized your question was for me: I said that after reading some discussions suggesting that it is mfg in east europe. you are right -- its clear that made-in-usa still applies to this one.
 

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Internals alert on the Craftsman pro vise: I just did a full dis-assembly, clean, and lube on mine, and discovered insufficient lube and chips "in the bullet". I'd encourage all craftsman pro owners to do this.

How old is yours?

I bought mine last January 2012, when the Sale price went down to $99 and $5 coupon was still active lol :D

one could argue that chips in the bullet won't hurt anything, and would just get pushed around by the dynamic jaw. That could be, but I decided not to take the risk. I was astonished to find all those chips in there, and that the mfg process made no attempt to clean them up. But this is to be expected when 90 seconds of mfg time translates into a few pennies saved on each vise. Craftsman probably contracted with the mfg for a certain number of vises at a certain price, and that price still leaves enough profit on the table for the manufacturer, the shipper, and Craftsman themselves, considering all of the distribution logistics, stocking etc. ...
 
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kythri

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sears.com picture still shows a round-end - are the ones you folks purchased a square-end?

I don't really NEED another one, but if they went back to the round-end style, I'd totally snag one.
 

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Import vise vs. restored old vise.

So I have an imported Wilton like the one below

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I'm a gunsmith so my needs are pretty light duty, mostly just holding things I'm working on.

I also have an English Record (3VS)vise like the one below if I ever need to do heavier work.
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Of the two I like the imported Wilton best because of the rotating head, just gives me more options than the non-rotating. For light to medium duty the imported vises are just fine, but you have to get them cheap or they're just not worth it.

Otherwise if you're not afraid of a little work (and restoring a vise isn't a tough job typically), then buying an old US made vise is THE WAY TO GO. I would never pay more than $40.00 for an import vise. Because if you're going to pay $75.00, then you can get a first rate, top quality US made vise of CL with just a little bit of patience.
 
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