Which compressor for home shop, 230v not an option?

[BOONEY7750]

I need a compressor for my home shop. I want a 230v but there is no way to get the power. I figured either of two below will allow me to use most impacts and general air tools, but some cut offs will max me out. I like the 100% duty cycle of the Ingersoll, but I like the high SCFM of the Quincy, but it is only 50% duty cycle. I am not familiar with the Quincy brand at all, but I am fine with Ingersoll as a brand. I know for a few hundred more I could get a 60g 230v, but I am in a old house with a small and full panel. Thanks.

Ingersoll
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...5221_200375221

Quincy
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...1743_200481743
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...3164_200483164

[pipsters]

Garage mate scored pretty low:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=138871

For the $$ the Husky and Craftsman smoked it. I own the 25 gallon Craftsman, so far haven't found anything that can touch it, although the Quincy looks like it would. It is rated for 100% duty cycle but the manual does mention 50% is preferred. If going for the Quincy I would get the 26 gal one, as you run air tools off stored air in a 120v compressor vs. what the pump produces in a 240v compressor.

[pdxgearhead]

Can't you run a 230V off your dryer circuit?

[Ed_EOD]

Just make sure you get an oiled belt driven compressor. Husky has a good one, especially if you can find one a few years old.

[BOONEY7750]

PDXGEARHEAD.....Not within my electrical ability for sure, I live a strong union city with crazy codes and inspections. I have to use contractors from the city's list if I plan on passing inspection and I am not sure I could get one of them to take it on or if I would pass the inspection after the work was complete. I have had people tell me to basically run a new small box off a existing circuit such as the dryer and that was referred to it as jumper box or piggy back box, if there is a way to take power form a existing circuit safely I am all ears, but I am way to far away from the dryer to for example try plugging the compressor into my dryer outlet.

[waggie]

1. get the 110volt compressor and be unhappy with them. and later you rewire your garage/house, and buy a bigger 220v compressor anyway. Now you have a spare 110volt compressor.

2. re-do the electricity and buy 220 compressor.

3. why bother with an air compressor at all? get electric tools. You'll be running one tool at a time, your old house and full panel should be ok with that. The new generation of electric tools are quite good.

[Skin]

Unless you plan on doing something like blasting or painting 230V is not required for home use. You can get by just fine with 115V 1-2HP units.

[BOONEY7750]

I have tons of electric tools and I am quite happy with them, I do how ever enjoy working on cars and 4x4 trucks, the air compressor is my preferred method. Personal preference. I want to be able to sand, media blast, and spray, I do not think there is much to debate in terms of 230v vs electric on the tools or compared to a 115v compressor. However a 115v I am marginally happy with that will run impacts and hammers is better than nothing. I am well aware I should be rewiring and going 230, but its hard to justify putting in a whole new 200a panel for a house I am going to be moving out of in about 3 years.

[Copytech]

220v is just two 110v circuits on separate breakers wired together. It really isn't that hard to do. Mine is piggy backed off the dryer circuit. They do not share the same outlet. I just make sure they are not running at the same time.
watch this it will explain what is going on better.
http://www.askmediy.com/electrical/3...lt-outlet.html

[PT Doc]

Just my opinion, the ir will not run at 100%. Cfm quoted seems like a legitimate number. No way that will be 75-80dba. It will likely be perceived to be at least twice as loud.
Air outlets for all are different. The first Quincy is the largest at 1/2". Could be why the cfm is rated a lot higher on the Quincy compared to the ir.
Without looking into these deeper I would go with the first Quincy. There have have cheaper model 60g quincy compressors that look identical to oter brands so the question is who makes the cheaper ones, is it Quincy for the other brands or someone else and Quincy slap their name on it.

[pipsters]

Pretty sure its against code to run anotger 220 from your dryer line, might want to research that first.

[RKA]

If you're considering the IR, look at this as well (reported to be very similar to the IR)...
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...5339_200455339

[RangerDaleXp]

Originally Posted by RKA

If you're considering the IR, look at this as well (reported to be very similar to the IR)...
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...5339_200455339

That is a very good one as well as this morgan, you can get an extra 10 gallons and 5 psi and save $100 as well...

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...6622_200396622

[Gary S]

The Quincy compressors seem to have higher cfm. Cfm is what matters. I'd get one of them. But, don't expect a cutoff wheel to work with a 7cfm compressor very well. Most cutoff wheels that I've looked at are listed at around 4cfm, but that is a no-load rating. Under load, they will easily need 2-3x that amount of air.

[BOONEY7750]

I understand 230v is just two 115v, I just wanted clarification about using the dryer circuit. I looked into the piggy backing and that is not an option. Codes here are nuts. If I want to rent out or sell or even change my occupancy permit status for my next child I will be inspected. Anything with a motor has to have its own circuit. washer, dishwasher, fridge, my convection oven, garbage disposal, well you guys get the point on my 100a box I will already have to disconnect the disposal from a the dishwasher circuit to pass inspection. Piggy backing will not fly. I looked into replacing my service some more and it is doable except for my meter as a radio and gps unit that sends a down line alert to the power company if it is disconnected. If I go through the city and power company than I can do it but I will have to go through an inspection. The inspection issue is not that I will have shobby work done, I am not worried about the new work at all. I am worried about the 100 years of shitty work done everywhere else in the house and have heard the horror stories of people getting in trouble for other issues from a non related inspection. This area is nuts for that kinda of stuff. I live in Illinois that should give you guys a little understanding of how messed up stuff is.

[RangerDaleXp]

Originally Posted by BOONEY7750

Piggy backing will not fly.

At my old hose I did it for ten years without any problems off an A/C unit. I had an old 100 amp zinsco panel with no more room. Just do not use both at the same time or you will trip the breaker. disconnect it when you move....

[Buckgnarly]

Originally Posted by BOONEY7750

I understand 230v is just two 115v, I just wanted clarification about using the dryer circuit. I looked into the piggy backing and that is not an option. Codes here are nuts. If I want to rent out or sell or even change my occupancy permit status for my next child I will be inspected. Anything with a motor has to have its own circuit. washer, dishwasher, fridge, my convection oven, garbage disposal, well you guys get the point on my 100a box I will already have to disconnect the disposal from a the dishwasher circuit to pass inspection. Piggy backing will not fly. I looked into replacing my service some more and it is doable except for my meter as a radio and gps unit that sends a down line alert to the power company if it is disconnected. If I go through the city and power company than I can do it but I will have to go through an inspection. The inspection issue is not that I will have shobby work done, I am not worried about the new work at all. I am worried about the 100 years of shitty work done everywhere else in the house and have heard the horror stories of people getting in trouble for other issues from a non related inspection. This area is nuts for that kinda of stuff. I live in Illinois that should give you guys a little understanding of how messed up stuff is.

Am I understanding that you have to be inspected if you have more people (even a child!) move into your house?!?!

[pipsters]

Originally Posted by RangerDaleXp

At my old hose I did it for ten years without any problems off an A/C unit. I had an old 100 amp zinsco panel with no more room. Just do not use both at the same time or you will trip the breaker. disconnect it when you move....

Just because you can do something doesn't make it legal.

[BOONEY7750]

For the people the piggy back and can not use both items, do you turn off compressor, drain water, then next time you use it just let fill itself up. Or just leave it pressurized and turn if off and then make sure when it kicks on the other item is not in use. Seems easy enough if the tank and system holds air tight and I use the dryer circuit. Not sure how that works with the AC kicking on automatically. RangerDaleXp I know I could piggy back and take it out, but I was hoping to "do it right" what ever that means, I guess this is the perfect example of over regulation causing a situation where people have to do exactly what the regulation was trying to stop.

[RangerDaleXp]

Originally Posted by pipsters

Just because you can do something doesn't make it legal.

Never said it was legal or not legal. just said it could be done without any problems.....