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eschoendorff · 03-29-2008, 01:25 PM

Is it the consensus of teh board taht the Dual 80 technology is superior to the 936?

I am looking to replace my 936 with an 80 series... and give my lightly-used 936 to a student who plans to enroll in a technical school to study as a mechanic....

84TurboBuick · 03-29-2008, 01:44 PM

If you buy me one and send it to me, I'll do an in depth review and let you know how it worked out!

acmike · 03-29-2008, 01:55 PM

I have a few of the F80's.

I wouldn't throw out my 936's, but the F80's are definitely nicer.

Feel one once, and you'll see the difference.

krusty the clown · 03-29-2008, 01:59 PM

smooth as butter..........i look for reasons to use them.

DavidtheDuke · 03-29-2008, 02:05 PM

The new 80 tooth design by SO really deserves the There is a Difference slogan. All my 3/8 ratchets are 3/8ths now. I have a F80, FX80, and FHLF80. All help you get into that *just right* position to break something loose in a tight spot without having to wait for another tooth.

SCguy · 03-29-2008, 02:29 PM

Well, my boss just traded in all of his Snap-on ratchets for new 80 teethers. I've used his F80 and I really like it. He said if he would have thought about it, he would have practically given me his F936 and others, since I'm just starting out. UGGHH!
Oh well, I'll look and see what the Snapon man has when he comes around next month.

RD

eschoendorff · 03-29-2008, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidtheDuke

All my 3/8 ratchets are 3/8ths now.

DavidtheDuke · 03-29-2008, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschoendorff

sorry, 80 3/8s *

eschoendorff · 03-29-2008, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidtheDuke

sorry, 80 3/8s *

So, do you ever miss your 936s?

johnny1290 · 03-29-2008, 03:25 PM

The F80 is amazing. I'll dig around to find it rather than use a 936.

**Fedwrench** · 03-29-2008, 03:28 PM

Yes and No. I feel that you can't beat the F80 series of ratchets for 3/8 drive. The ability to work in cramped engine compartments is enhanced with the short 5 degree ratchet swing.
However, I feel they missed the boat in the 1/4 drive version T72. The head is too thick on the T72 when you compare it to the 60 tooth Matco and other Danaher branded models, the Mac round head, or even the Snap on 1/4 round head model. If they could have cut the T72 head thickness to equal their competition, they would have a winner hands down.
Lastly, I think the 936 series may be the best balance between strength and fine teeth on the 1/2 inch drive models. 80 teeth may prove to be too fine on a 18 or 24 inch long ratchet. You don't need as fine of ratcheting action with that long of a ratchet. Time will tell when they come out in numbers. I've been using one of the new Proto 45 tooth (the one that replaced the older Big Dawg series) long 1/2 drive ratchets for a couple of months with good results.

l_bilyk · 03-29-2008, 04:05 PM

So does anyone have a pic of the guts in these things?

Moose-LandTran · 03-29-2008, 04:11 PM

i'd like to buy one. but you won't catch me replacing any of my 936s.

gotmud13613 · 03-29-2008, 04:31 PM

I had to see what all the hype was about this ratchet, So I picked me one up, not like i really need another ratchet but the F80 is worth every penny and a few more

as stated above smooth as butter and seems tough as H@LL

ImportTuner · 03-29-2008, 04:37 PM

I have 4 of the new 80 teeth series ratchet and I love them ... now who can I sell all my 936's to ...

DavidtheDuke · 03-29-2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschoendorff

So, do you ever miss your 936s?

I really only had one 936 before.. But I do miss the definitive click you would get with them, it felt very strong like it wouldn't let you down. I'd say the new 80s are actually counter-intuitively stronger, though. The contact between the pawl and the wheel in involves more surface area and the tolerances in the head are as tight if not tighter than the 936's.

wrenchr · 03-29-2008, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschoendorff

Is it the consensus of teh board taht the Dual 80 technology is superior to the 936?

I am looking to replace my 936 with an 80 series... and give my lightly-used 936 to a student who plans to enroll in a technical school to study as a mechanic....

Yes I go for the F80 every time!!!

jimmycrackcorn · 03-29-2008, 06:49 PM

got one myself, gotta say i like to swing it.......and i mean the ratchet......

eschoendorff · 03-29-2008, 06:55 PM

Okay... you guys are seriously making me think of parting with $73.95!

next question... I have enough of the flex head ratchets... but if i was gonna make a new F80 my main go-to ratchet, which do you think would be more versatile? The standard handle 7 11/32" or the 10 5/16"? I am thinking the 7 11/32 because i already have a 10 5/16 Snap On round head ratchet.

krusty the clown · 03-29-2008, 06:57 PM

after you get your new f80 you'll reconsider and replace your flex head too!

03-29-2008, 01:44 PM	#2
84TurboBuick Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 412	Re: So, what then is the consenses on teh F80? If you buy me one and send it to me, I'll do an in depth review and let you know how it worked out!

03-29-2008, 01:55 PM	#3
acmike Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 18	Re: So, what then is the consenses on teh F80? I have a few of the F80's. I wouldn't throw out my 936's, but the F80's are definitely nicer. Feel one once, and you'll see the difference.

03-29-2008, 01:59 PM	#4
krusty the clown Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: niangua, mo Posts: 7,535	Re: So, what then is the consenses on teh F80? smooth as butter..........i look for reasons to use them. __________________ DEGENERATE Main Entry: 1de·gen·er·ate Pronunciation: \di-ˈjen-rət, -ˈje-nə-, dē-\ Date: 15th century 1 a : having declined or become less specialized (as in nature, character, structure, or function) from an ancestral or former state b : having sunk to a condition below that which is normal to a type; especially : having sunk to a lower and usually corrupt and vicious state c : degraded 2

03-29-2008, 02:05 PM	#5
DavidtheDuke Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 556	Re: So, what then is the consenses on teh F80? The new 80 tooth design by SO really deserves the There is a Difference slogan. All my 3/8 ratchets are 3/8ths now. I have a F80, FX80, and FHLF80. All help you get into that just right position to break something loose in a tight spot without having to wait for another tooth.

03-29-2008, 02:29 PM	#6
SCguy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Blackville, SC Posts: 137	Re: So, what then is the consenses on teh F80? Well, my boss just traded in all of his Snap-on ratchets for new 80 teethers. I've used his F80 and I really like it. He said if he would have thought about it, he would have practically given me his F936 and others, since I'm just starting out. UGGHH! Oh well, I'll look and see what the Snapon man has when he comes around next month. RD __________________ This space for rent. I accept Paypal, all major credit cards, and Snapon tools.

03-29-2008, 03:25 PM	#10
johnny1290 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chino Posts: 357	Re: So, what then is the consenses on teh F80? The F80 is amazing. I'll dig around to find it rather than use a 936.

03-29-2008, 03:28 PM	#11
Fedwrench Alliance Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Valley of the sun Posts: 6,612	Re: So, what then is the consenses on teh F80? Yes and No. I feel that you can't beat the F80 series of ratchets for 3/8 drive. The ability to work in cramped engine compartments is enhanced with the short 5 degree ratchet swing. However, I feel they missed the boat in the 1/4 drive version T72. The head is too thick on the T72 when you compare it to the 60 tooth Matco and other Danaher branded models, the Mac round head, or even the Snap on 1/4 round head model. If they could have cut the T72 head thickness to equal their competition, they would have a winner hands down. Lastly, I think the 936 series may be the best balance between strength and fine teeth on the 1/2 inch drive models. 80 teeth may prove to be too fine on a 18 or 24 inch long ratchet. You don't need as fine of ratcheting action with that long of a ratchet. Time will tell when they come out in numbers. I've been using one of the new Proto 45 tooth (the one that replaced the older Big Dawg series) long 1/2 drive ratchets for a couple of months with good results.

03-29-2008, 04:05 PM	#12
l_bilyk Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,773	Re: So, what then is the consenses on teh F80? So does anyone have a pic of the guts in these things?

03-29-2008, 04:11 PM	#13
Moose-LandTran Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The Brink of Insanity Posts: 14,620	Re: So, what then is the consenses on teh F80? i'd like to buy one. but you won't catch me replacing any of my 936s.

03-29-2008, 04:31 PM	#14
gotmud13613 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Upstate, NY (Brasher Falls) Posts: 579	Re: So, what then is the consenses on teh F80? I had to see what all the hype was about this ratchet, So I picked me one up, not like i really need another ratchet but the F80 is worth every penny and a few more as stated above smooth as butter and seems tough as H@LL

03-29-2008, 04:37 PM	#15
ImportTuner Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 5,307	Re: So, what then is the consenses on teh F80? I have 4 of the new 80 teeth series ratchet and I love them ... now who can I sell all my 936's to ...

03-29-2008, 06:49 PM	#18
jimmycrackcorn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 497	Re: So, what then is the consenses on teh F80? got one myself, gotta say i like to swing it.......and i mean the ratchet......

03-29-2008, 06:57 PM	#20
krusty the clown Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: niangua, mo Posts: 7,535	Re: So, what then is the consenses on teh F80? after you get your new f80 you'll reconsider and replace your flex head too! __________________ DEGENERATE Main Entry: 1de·gen·er·ate Pronunciation: \di-ˈjen-rət, -ˈje-nə-, dē-\ Date: 15th century 1 a : having declined or become less specialized (as in nature, character, structure, or function) from an ancestral or former state b : having sunk to a condition below that which is normal to a type; especially : having sunk to a lower and usually corrupt and vicious state c : degraded 2

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