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Atlas 408-SL Lift Review

Dn325ci

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Guys, yesterday I built my Atlas 408-SL lift from Greg Smith Equipment. I had two buddies helping, we started at 10:05am and finished at 1:05pm - exactly 3 hours. We started from a disassembled lift in the back of a box truck - one of the guys had taken delivery of it at his loading dock, and unbolted it piece by piece from the shipping frame.

Assembly
1. It was not hard to build at all. It is just a bunch of really big pieces. The instructions are simple. If you are mechanically inclined at all, you can do it. I'm a stinking marketing guy, for crying out loud.

2. You really need to work out how you are going to move the big pieces around. All-in shipping weight is 1,965 lbs. There is not one piece in it you could call "light." But the heaviest pieces - the two runways, must be like 400-ish lbs each, maybe more. One of the guys had originally loaded the pieces in the box truck with a forklift - obviously makes it easy. But at my house we had to maneuver it off the back of the truck's hydraulic lift using a pallet jack. Once the pieces were generally in place, it was straightforward.

3. My first thought on opportunities to improve the instructions, I would say clarify the bolts/nuts/washers. There is one general picture of all those items laid out on a surface, but there are not individual labeled pictures of each. Some of the bolts are very close to one another, but differ slightly in length. We were often wondering exactly what hardware the schematic was referring to, because there were no close up pictures. We had two minor instances where we had to go back and remove a bolt and put the right one in place.

Performance
4. After 24 hours of running it up and down, and putting different cars on it, I just love it. It is not as slow going up as I had thought it would be. I should probably time it. EDIT: with a regular passenger car it's 93 seconds of lift time from the ground to the top lock.

Build Quality & Looks/Design
5. This thing is stout. The verticals are significantly more substantial than any of the consumer lifts I've seen - more "pillars" than "posts". You put a car/load up on it, and it's just an ingot. Will not move. I'm more than paranoid I'm going to hit my head on it somewhere - I have no doubt something so unyielding would seriously ring my bell.

6. Looks are a low priority for a functional piece of equipment, but it looks amazing. Very clean & strong. No external cables, or hydraulic lines, or lock release rods. All of that stuff is built into the cross members and the pillars.

I've got painting and other clean up yet to do, but here's a picture of the lightest cars in our fleet on it as we were testing it out.
 

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T-Mac

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I have the atlas oh9000 and love it.Have had a 1 ton ford dually diesel extended cab with a plow mount and tommy gate on it and it was solid as a rock!
 

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I'll chime in with the answer to jasonbraswell since I was given a 408-SL for Christmas last year from my wife. With the casters installed you can roll the lift around the garage with one had. It take a little grunt to get it rolling but it rolls very easily once it's moving. I also am so impressed with this lift. Male friends and neighbors just stare at it with appreciation :) I think my ceiling is just a bit over 10ft. I can fit my X1 under it and put either my Mustang or Cobra replica above it. I did have to raise my garage door one panel.
 
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OmniGLH

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I'll add to this thread since I spent a lot of time searching this site for info :)

Picked up a 408-SL last weekend down at the Indy location. Originally ordered (and paid for, over the phone) the 8000. Got down there, saw the two side by side, and decided to just do the 408-SL for a few bucks more. Without any real scientific information - I'll say that the 408 definitely seems beefier.

BTW - if you order a lift AND two rack-jacks, you get a "combo" discount of $300. And when I was paying for the 408, I told the guy I wanted to throw in the casters too (since the casters are, according to the website, NOT included with the 408 like they are with the 8000) and he said that since I was already doing the "combo" with the rack jacks, the casters were *also* included in the combo. So, all-in, it was just shy of $3400 for the 408-SL + casters + two RJ-35 jacks (well, then plus tax...)

They used a forklift to drop it onto my trailer, and we strapped it down with some ratcheting tie-downs. The lift itself is bolted to a metal frame so there's holes and what-not to be able to tie it down.

Backed the trailer into my garage and disassembled the "box" while still on the trailer, and used my engine hoist to move each piece to the ground. As stated here already - definitely plan your moves out. The pieces are BIG and they are HEAVY. It took us a few hours to unload the trailer because we kinda "boxed" ourselves into the garage - we unloaded a few pieces and then realized we could no longer move the hoist into position to move the rest (oops).

I'm also impressed with the guys that, once unloaded, say they got the thing up in 3 hours. I had 2 guys helping me (plus my 11 y/o son... so maybe 2.5 guys helping me), we're all mechanically inclined... and I'd say it was probably more like 6 hours for us. Though what also probably contributed to the time - we placed the ramp (with the piston in it) backwards on the ground, relative to the final orientation... so it took some time to figure out how to maneuver it around.

All-in, it was not a mentally challenging task... simple instructions, pretty easy to figure out. Just be careful as the parts are HEAVY and will definitely hurt someone if they fall over :) We took our time and made sure to think everything through before doing each step. If you have the ability, I'd recommend assembling it close to the final space just so you've got everything oriented correctly. It DOES roll really easy on the casters, but those technically don't go on until the end. We kinda hacked/rigged them on before putting the cables and pump on - I assembled the frame in the middle of the garage and then realized I might not have enough space to move it into position without hitting cabinets/toolboxes/workbench/etc. (Worked out okay - phew.)

I haven't yet put a car up on it - I need to adjust the cabling. Right now the locks don't engage all at the same time, and I burned enough of last weekend in the garage (wife still pissed I used up part of V-Day weekend LOL).

But so far, it seems like a really nice piece... I'm excited to start using it!
 

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I have a 409 and like it very much. The runways would need to be longer to use the rolling trolley jacks under the axles on a crew cab 8' bed superduty truck.

Chris
 

OmniGLH

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OmniGLH,

Did you purchase the aluminum approach ramps? If not how are the steel ramps to move/handle?

I haven't checked in here in a long time (oops!) so sorry I missed your post about a year ago ;) I imagine you no longer need my answer BUT I'll answer it for the good of the thread...

I did NOT buy the aluminum ramps. 1 year later, and I wish I did. The standard steel ramps are pretty heavy and a pain to move around. My garage isn't long enough to leave them attached, so every time I load/unload a car I have to go grab the ramps. They work fine... just heavy/awkward. If my wife's car is stored on the rack she struggles to get the ramps installed to pull her car off.

Mini-update/correction to my previous post about the 6-hour install time.... I'll reiterate "plan ahead". Helped my neighbor install a 4-post a few months ago and we did it in under 3 hours. Trick is to plan out each piece BEFORE you start unloading. Know where the pieces need to end up and in which direction. Otherwise you risk boxing yourself in and it becomes Tetris to move all the pieces around.
 

monsterbronco

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I bought the 408 combo kit a few years ago. Dad and I put it together in under 4hrs but I had read the directions many times and knew exactly where and how I wanted to put it together. Really happy with the lift, fits great in my space.

My only complaint is sometimes the latch at one of the corners doesn't release appropriately. I haven't looked if there is an adjustment I'm missing yet though.

Don't know how I ever lived without the rolling jacks though! Those alone were worth the money for the lift!

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72 Z27

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Since it had been discontinued, I bought the 408-SL floor model at the Indianapolis Greg Smith store and saved quite a bit...plan to install it this weekend.

I am surprised it lasted this long. I purchased the last in stock 408-SL in late February from the Indy store. I was offered the floor model but past on it because I needed mine shipped to St. Louis. I got the aluminum ramps at a discount instead because they could not offer a complete combo kit as the caster kit was not in stock anymore.

My only complaint is sometimes the latch at one of the corners doesn't release appropriately. I haven't looked if there is an adjustment I'm missing yet though.

I have this exact problem with mine. The release that sticks is on the opposite corner from the release lever. I have tried some minor adjusting and it appears that the torsional twist running down the length of the runner is causing the hang up. I need to look at it again.
 

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I have the Eagle lift which looks identical to the Atlas and Danmar. I wouldn't be surprised if they were all made in the same place. Mine also hangs up sometimes on the corner diagonally across from the release handle. Playing with the adjustments helps. With the weight of a car on it, it works ok. But without any weight it does occasionally hang up. If it happens, I get somebody to stand or hang on that corner.
 
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Great news everyone - we have relaunched the Atlas 408-SL and 409-HP due to popular demand! Both lifts are in stock in our Indianapolis facility and the 408-SL is also in stock in our new Riverside, CA store with more on the way to other facilities.

http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-408SL-8-000-LB-Four-Post-Lift_2

http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-409-HP-9-000-LB-Four-Post-Lift

Call one of our experts today at (800) 601-3036 or visit one of our 11 showrooms http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Store-Locations
 

Ro_Ja Boy

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Thanks for posting, Greg Smith. Since the ramps for the 408-SL are a different locking style than what I'm used to seeing, does that mean that Race Ramps and similar won't work with the 408-SL? Thanks
 
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Ro_Ja Boy

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Thanks. So one of the differences between the 408SL and the Pro 8000 or Apex 8 is that the latter two use hook ramps and the 408 does not? I am planning to purchase the RR with the least amount of slope possible, so would matter to me. Thanks
 
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Thanks. So one of the differences between the 408SL and the Pro 8000 or Apex 8 is that the latter two use hook ramps and the 408 does not? I am planning to purchase the RR with the least amount of slope possible, so would matter to me. Thanks

That is correct, the 408 cannot currently accept the Race Ramps without a plate added to the bolts. We're working on a kit to be able to add on.

The extra long aluminum ramps have an angle of 7.8 degrees, they are 44" long with a rise of 6".
 

Ro_Ja Boy

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That is correct, the 408 cannot currently accept the Race Ramps without a plate added to the bolts. We're working on a kit to be able to add on.

The extra long aluminum ramps have an angle of 7.8 degrees, they are 44" long with a rise of 6".

Any update @gregsmithequipmentsales on the kit to add Race Ramps? Hopefully purchasing in the next two months or so. Thanks!
 

madbim

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^ Wondering this as well. Ready to place an order\pickup in about 2 weeks, would like to get the Race Ramps if possible.
 
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