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Old 12-31-2009, 07:57 AM   #21
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Wow. Very nice work. Look forward to updates.
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Old 12-31-2009, 12:41 PM   #22
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Very nice, and your creativity too to overcome the issues of lifting
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When you get done I think the lefting device (Derrick) could very easily be converted into a Trebuchet.... which is what I thought it actually was when I saw the first pic of it
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Old 12-31-2009, 01:39 PM   #24
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impressive... nice work!!
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Old 12-31-2009, 01:39 PM   #25
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When you get done I think the lefting device (Derrick) could very easily be converted into a Trebuchet.... which is what I thought it actually was when I saw the first pic of it
We are in a tourist (summer) area because of the lake. Many would stop and make comments as to what Derrick actually was suposed to be. Some did say catapult (trebuchet), nobody used that version. Guillotine was a favorite along with many others.
As I get time to post more pics, or if you go on the web site, you will see that Derrick will change his size and shape as the construction is needed. So alas he will not be able to hurl watermelons at the guys down the road.
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Old 12-31-2009, 02:19 PM   #26
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This shop makes me optimistic about what I can do in my next three decades.

And Lin and Dave, I suspect you'll still be coming up with new projects three decades from now. You're an inspiration.

Thank you for the post.
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Old 12-31-2009, 02:39 PM   #27
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I used to go to Mountain View Ark for work. I think Ark is under appreciated for it beauty. I made some lifelong friends that live in that area. Funny thing is none from the area but all have similar love of quality work(woodworking and pretty much anything mechanical). I'll tell them about your build. I'm sure they will be as excited as I am to see how you progress.
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Old 12-31-2009, 02:54 PM   #28
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WOW!

If I can have a third of your drive and energy when I'm just 50 I'll be so very happy. You are an inspiration, and to have both of you equally passionate about this project is a real blessing. Subscribed.
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Old 12-31-2009, 03:37 PM   #29
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Well, I just turned 49 last month so I've got 20 years to get caught up with you. Excellent craftsmanship on those exposed beams--can't wait to see how this turns out.
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Old 12-31-2009, 03:55 PM   #30
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I added more pictures to the original post at the start of this thread. The idea was to try to keep it in a continuous format in one place. The first add on went ok, but than as I was afraid of, the program rejected my next atempt at adding even more. Stating it had a text issue of over 10,000.
So I am open to suggestions on how the correct way to do this is. In the meantime and in case this is the only alternative, I will add the next set of pics in the order here.


Above; Shows the notches made and a sample brace for the longitude bracing.

Above; Will need to have these support anchors ready to hold up the first and added bents.

Above; Temporary spacers were straped to post while we premade each bent.

Above; Don't have a portable drill press so made a guide to keep the big drill straight.

Above; Second floor joist prebolted to post.

Above; First bent all prebolted together. Checked for square and match marked.

Above; Raising the first post.

Above; Yep it's up.

Above; Lifting the rafter section with the help of the cross piece that is temporary bolted to the rafter section. Also shows that posts are braced with 4 side and end braces.

Above; Besides being bolted, each joint is nailed using special hardened pole nails. Three to four at each joint.

Above; First of five standing on it's own.

Above; Drilling cement for post locator. We use a 5/8 cement lag.

Above; Stud has to be cut off flush with top of nut to clear the Simpson post pad.

Above; Temporary braced to first set.

Above; Basically now it is just repeat, except for number five which needs to be done after we turn Derrick around.

Above; Threading up a couple lags in our little fake beam.

Above; Trial fit.

Above; Lin shows how it will look.

Above; Derrick gets a little tight as all the post get in place. But it worked on paper and yep, it did work.

Above; Good view showing the rafter headers and some of the east west corner bracing.

Above; Taking the top off of Derrick.

Above; Let the A down using the electric hoist.

Above; The other side was let down with a com-a-long. Let the pipe come down with it. That pipe was heavy for an old dude balancing on a step ladder.

Above; Christmas time 2008.

Above; Main frame up.

Above; Next step will be to put the 12 rafters on those headers.

Above; Weather has been our biggest problem. 33 degrees when I took this picture. But rain has been the hardest to cope with. It doesn’t help the wood either.
This is as many as I can put into this post. Also am worked out for today, if we are to make it to see the new year come in at midnight I need to take a break.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL. ENJOY.
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Old 12-31-2009, 05:41 PM   #31
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That's a barn raising...




Fantastic work so far. I admire your ingenuity to overcome limited tooling access. Your solutions are quite elegant in function. Gotta love a wife that is so gun-hoe to jump into the work with you!
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Old 12-31-2009, 07:44 PM   #32
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So far, I've spent hours on your site & still haven't looked at everything! Amazing!
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Old 12-31-2009, 10:39 PM   #33
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I am really enjoying these posts! All you guys who are still young - don't stop doing things and also don't think you won't be able to do things as you age. I turned 60 2 weeks ago and am still going strong. I'm in the middle of a tile job for the new mudroom floor that attaches the new garage to the house. I think there are a couple of keys to staying able to do these things; 1) don't stop doing them, 2) eat healthfully and 3) don't gain weight (very important!). Also, 4) keep exercising - I don't mean working around the yard - I mean by doing specific exercises and running, swimming or bicycling. After my back started bugging me at 36 because of too much basketball, I switched to bicycling. I still ride over 1000 miles a year and since 1992 have ridden over 25000 miles. Yes, you read that right. At my peak I was doing 3300 miles per year. Jack Lalane is my idol!! If you don't know who he is, google him. You'll be amazed at his feats!

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Old 01-02-2010, 03:53 PM   #34
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Adding more pictures.

Above; Hand carry the center rafter up the stairway.

Above; Push one end of upside down rafter over the top of the header.

Above; Put other end up on header and leave rafter hanging upside down and bring up two more for this section.

Above; Pick one up from the middle and roll it up. Set it against one of the ones that are attached to the poles. After I had three standing up I slid them in place on the headers and tacked a temporary stick to hold in place.

Above; Note, working off a stepladder on top of Derrick.

Above; First three done. Jan. 2009 and then weather turned to winter.

Above; Needed to get the other posts out of the way , so decided to cut them in half now and take them to storage.

Above; Lin showing where these half long posts will go when we get done with the top of the center section.

Above; Took this picture from up on top with the sun at my back. Thought the shadow shot was interesting.

Above; Center rafters in place, from second floor.

Above; Simpson ties at the bottom of the rafter.

Above; Using 1 x4 yellow pine for purlins. Not concerned with snow load etc. here in AR.

Above; Looks like a barn.

Above; Finished late this night. Check out the full moon.

Above; Covering with plastic to protect from weather.

Above; Setting Core-a-vent strips on prestained cedar face boards.

Above; Bottom purlin and face board both done with western red cedar. Center section is now ready for tin.

Above; Cutting pieces of foil bubble foil to be used under tin.

Above; Built this walk board to go up and stand on while installing roof. Pitch is 8/12 and will not be able to stand on the foil. Bottom has a rug remnant glued to it. Hooks are made from a couple of leftovers pieces of rebar.Note, every other rafter blocked in for foil bubble foil seam.

Above; First piece of foil. Four foot wide, very light. Hard to handle by yourself if there is any wind.

Above; Staple top and bottom but not pulled tight.

Above; Bottom closure and condensation weep strip.

Above; Predrilled the tin, makes putting in the screws much easier. And uniform too.

Above; It got a little breezy and Lin wanted to help hold down the bottom of the foil. She was nervous about the height so I tied her to the header.

Above; Last piece on North side. Note, temporary cap to keep rain out of getting in between tin and foil.

Above; South side pretty much a repeat of North. With different temporary cap.

Above; The seams of all the joints of the bubble foil were taped using aluminum foil tape.

Above; Last temp. cap ready to fall into place.

Above; Pulled rope and block and cap fell into place. All this just to keep the rain out until I can get a few days of good weather to put up the top vent and permanent cap.

Above; Had to build another style walk board cause could not use hooks at top. This will push against Derrick at bottom.

Above; View of temp. caps from the top.

Above; The safety rope that is tied to my climbing harness. Also check out the supervisor safely on the lawn.

Above; Unique view of our house.

Above; Double row of top closures. Flat stock as you can kinda see on north side screws down over these. Than the Core-a-vent top vent and than the metal cap.

Above; This is the top vent with the screw system I came up with and stainless washers.

Above; Center section roof done. 356 screws just for the cap section alone.

Thanks for all the kind words, enjoy showing it to you.
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Old 01-02-2010, 07:07 PM   #35
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as I said before I love this build, and am addicted to it.
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Old 01-02-2010, 07:13 PM   #36
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I have learned alot from this build and it's not done yet!

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Old 01-02-2010, 08:01 PM   #37
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Holy Crap, What an inspiration you two are!!!
Must follow this one!
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:27 PM   #38
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That is one classy looking shop. Cannot wait for the updates.

It's always nice to see experience put into action. Thanks for posting.
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:41 PM   #39
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Beautiful work on your monitor , I am amazed at your ingenuity . I get out to Fayetteville AR twice and year and that is some pretty country .
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Wow, nothing like a couple oldtimers showing us youngins how its done! Great job! looks beautiful so far.
No kidding. I never really thought about cutting those bird mouths all at once.

I hope to have the same get up and go when I'm you're age, 30 years from now.
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